terms of its history and the division within it.

But I think to your question and ultimately to the Secretary's correct concern that growth has to consider the way in which the divide can increase between those who benefit from tech in particular and those who don't is the most pressing question.

It's the question that form the subtitle of the cost of cool and implies that there is a cost to it.

And for those of us interested in economic development, Chris, you and your team, and certainly a lot of the people who are viewing this, we've come to the unhappy conclusion that tech growth widens disparity.

There's nothing about tech growth so all those communities that are committing to tech growth and i think correctly so in many cases certainly in the state of texas and austin and san antonio both need to realize that there is no exception to this there's been no historical exception to tech growth doing anything but widening disparity and and and Disparity plays out in ways that even if you didn't have a socially conscious bone in your body, you would have to care about it because it impacts everyone.

And housing developments that are increasingly affordable only outside of the metro area means longer commute times for everyone.

People that mow your lawn, walk your dogs and care for your children.

regionally.

But I mean, when you overlay that on Austin and their tech growth and everything else, I mean, is this going to be more tech growth on steroids for Austin? Or I mean, what do you think is going to happen here?

Well, let's nuance the AI question first and talk about the infrastructure required for AI, which of course is data centers and the power grid necessary and the water resources to do it.

So I think it's important that we recognize that any new technology puts stresses on traditional systems.

We certainly experienced that with the birth of the Internet.

Widespread use of the Internet didn't really come into play until the mid-90s, never mind DARPA and everything else.

Really, we weren't users of the Internet.

And then suddenly we realized, and you remember how your modem used to beep and make weird noises? Yes.

Aspirational or realistic? Where do you think Austin lands in five years?