You know, great.

So, you know, it was like, it was a fear factor, and because I, it was very stressful, I used to cook all the time because whenever I cooked, I was in the kitchen.

I was going to law school with my brother and some other-... kids from Hawaii.

And so it was very therapeutic for me.

When I was in the kitchen, I would be watching all the great chef series.

Um, I would be immersed.

This is before the Food Network.

Like what? Yeah