Like, what are some of the traits or qualities that for you are just non-negotiable for a consumer founder?

Yeah.

I don't think it's consumer founder, I think it's any founder, um, 'cause I think these traits are universal, at least in our opinion, of what makes a founder great.

Um, mission is first.

They will live and die by they need to solve this, and they have good reason to solve it, but the trait is that they need to do this.

Like, you could pay them nothing, and they'll s- spend all night just doing it on their...

Like, it's just something they have to do.

Maybe that's a red flag, and you're just kinda like, "Pass." Uh, but when, when you see that in the room, what's, what's coachable and over time and what isn't for you?