But I think ultimately... we go toe to toe with them and do what we do best be solid and use our use our threats on the break and I think we may get some joy yeah John

Yeah, mirror what Jim's just said.

I think when we played them last season, we played them a little bit later.

We were fourth and they were top when we played them last season.

But I think they were surprised right from the off by the way that we played them and also the physical attributes that we brought to when we played them.

I think we got in their faces a little bit last season as well.

I think that's going to be important as well.

If they want to go on this digital journey, they need to take everyone with them and they need to do everything they can to bring everyone alongside with them.

Mm

... you look at, you know, you look at Newcastle, and they're technically sort of in the, in the bottom half of the table, when normally you would expect them, on those sorts of points, to be firmly mid-table.

And it's, it's still really... it's just really congested.

I think it's been one of those seasons where there's been lots of teams that have beaten each other.

I mean, I think, I think it's representative of the, the, the, the change in the kind of the middle teams in the Premier League in terms of how-- the, the, the spending power they've brought in, the players they've brou- they're able to-- were able to bring in.

And I think it's just, it's one of those seasons where everyone's, everyone's beaten everybody else.

It, it... there's not, there's no easy games.

Would you agree, John?