Uh, and with the gear that you brought in there, what were you using? Uh,

We made a record in my bedroom in 2004.

We sent it out.

A label in Florida picked it up, Clare Records, and they gave us a little bit of money to make the next one.

So we blew that immediately on gear.

Other than that, it was just stuff we had accumulated.

I mean, it wasn't incredibly high-end stuff.

Like just we were so young and it's crazy to have that be so long ago, but just have so many good memories from it still.