Give us a rundown of how you have been preparing for ICAST and, uh, what you are looking to accomplish this year.

Yeah, thanks Dave and Jordan for having me on.

But yeah, I tell you, ICAST is, is very hectic for, for me because there's, there's so much planning that goes into it because we, we plan almost all year and then, like, the, the couple weeks leading up to it immediately preceding ICAST are, are really kind of stressful because I...

There's-- I don't care what you do, there's always a bunch of last-minute things.

There's always a bunch of last-minute things.

I mean, trying to...

There, like, one of the new products we're just trying to get enough of them to actually be able to show.

Can you touch on a little bit of, of how you've seen some of the positive, uh, evolution of ICAST and maybe some of the things that have changed that you aren't so happy about that you wish maybe would kinda revert to the way they used to be?