Uh-I don't know

Uh, Bart's gonna pull his pistol and put a bullet in between the two gentlemen to, to arrest their attention.

So I'm gonna-

Bart gets, gets into the cart and starts pulling.

Oh, this is bringing back unpleasant memories of school days.

[laughs] Carries on, tries pulling the cart.

Yeah

... she doesn't even really like to even have a drink anymore because it affects her sleep now and more.

So-- But she, she was always the type to have one drink or to be one to be hungover and not want to drink to make the h-hangover better.

And I try to explain this to her about how my brain works, and i- she said that, you know, if she tried something, e-even a medication or, or any substance that made her feel, like, good or better, made things, like, a lot better, it would freak her out, and she wouldn't wanna do it.

And I tell her, "Okay, so you know that feeling where it made it better and it feels good? Okay, now obsess with that and how you're going to make yourself feel even better than you do now, and then how you're gonna continue that on." And then there's this whole game plan about, "Okay, tomorrow morning I'm gonna do this," and it's this obsessive game plan of how I can feel like this all the time.

Mm.

And looking back, it was-- my dad was going through his stuff, so I don't blame him, but there was a lot of stuff that was...

I was alone in.

Uh, what's your blender of choice?

Uh, absolutely, yeah, so blenders, we're just using classic Vitamixes.

Um, to make our juice, we're using two different machines.

We're using, um, a huge cold press machine, um, which is essentially just like a hydraulic pincher.

I think it, it came up somewhere, yeah.

Yeah, you mentioned it at a podcast and I was like, "Oh my God, Conan and I have something in common." But, uh, my question for you is, uh, like, uh, people always say, "Are you a fast swimmer?" And I go, "Oh, yeah, Michael Phelps," blah, blah, blah.

But, like, that answer's always a little boring.

So, I was hoping you could ki- help me come up with some better answers to, uh, l- what to respond when people ask, like, "Are you a fast swimmer?"

... business model that you guys have- have evolved, but I would love to hear kind of the- the backstory.

Yeah, I mean, when Wander started, interest rates were- were pretty much zero.

Uh, and so that allowed for us to have a very asset heavy model where we actually went out and bought those first few locations on balance sheet, really with the idea of solving the Cold Start problem of the marketplace, do things that don't scale.

And so as- as we grew, obviously that had to transition.

You had two crazy events happen at once.

You obviously had, um, sort of the massive, you know, rise of interest rates.

But Wander actually, at the time had $100 million credit facility with Credit Suisse as a six-month-old startup.

Mm-hmm.