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[upbeat music] From November, right after they lost the election, to December, they had gotten really worked up.

If, "We're not gonna accept the results of this election.

We're gonna da-da-da." And it was right after that that Trump tweeted, "Come to the Capitol on January 6th." He put it on his Twitter, and they all came to the Capitol on January 6th, and the rest is history.

He's doing the same thing now.

So I'm trying to get people to understand.

He's preemptively calling it bullshit.

I'm nice to you.

And we can also follow protocol

...

Right.

We have a process in place, right? So there's so much, like there's so much to say, and let me just say as succinctly and precise as I can, three quick things.

Number one, watching ICE stand around and not render aid to, uh, someone they just shot is as American as apple pie.

We've watched the police brutalize Black, brown, and indigenous communities in this country in that same way.

Shoot them, and then handcuff them, and then refuse to render aid.

Just look at it one more time.

Yeah.

And I would, you know, give my opinion on something.

And my brother Travis, who is five years younger than me, would be like, well, you know, not really, and here's why, X, Y, Z.

He was just giving his opinion.

And I always, always found it fascinating how when it came to issues of race— like maybe 50% of the time, his opinion was so far from mine in terms of, I wouldn't even have thought of that.

Right.

Because I live in a white privilege bubble.

It's a lot of time and effort and money.

Like,

really? No, no.

I'm going to be honest with you.

And people who've been following me for five years, I started in 2020 on social media.

They already know the answer I'm about to give.

I don't trust white people.

You know, like, I grew up.

Yeah, I

We've got my good friend, Jolly, the good ginger.

Appreciate you.

Appreciate you.

I brought Pepsi, Michael.

I brought Pepsi.

the elephant in the room you've had a mitch mcconnell uh moment where people were wondering where the fuck is jolly the ginger

yeah i saw the the rumor mill and a couple people that posted uh one guy was like i heard he's like like on icu and other guys he's dead so the rumor mill is i almost died let me clear

That's my, in my opinion.

You're not wrong.

You're 100% right.

If you watch my whole video right after where you stopped right there, right after that, he finally gets to the point where what Nolan said to him that day.

And he never says that Nolan said it that day.

It's very.

So what he says right there at that part of the interview, he says, Nolan was the type of guy who would, you know, if you need anything, I'm here for you.

I don't know.

Is that good enough?

Yeah, let me get away from the noise.

Hang on.

Let me get away from the noise.

Thank you very much.

Yeah, the Nolan Wells story, first of all, I'm glad you're covering it because the news cycle now happens so fast that, you know, it's, it's America.

Who gets murdered next by the white supremacist machine? But what I find most fascinating about the Nolan Wells story is the number of white Americans that are still, after watching what ICE is doing in Minneapolis, when they murdered a white woman in broad daylight, when they murdered a white man in broad daylight, still after we watch ICE just yesterday here in Maine murder a man, and then the number of white Americans that are outraged at what ICE is doing, and seeing the Venn diagram of how many of those white Americans are still waiting for the evidence to come out with Nolan Wells.

Now, Jolly, you know we don't know what happened, but we do know, we do have the evidence of the history of America, and not just the history, the now of America, especially with MAGA in charge.

That's the

answer.

That's the answer not enough people are catching, Michael.

What you just said, what you just said is the whole answer.

See, I'm going to give you some background on me for those who don't know.

Like I mentioned earlier, I was in military intelligence.

And primarily, I was a Korean linguist.

He can't shred a guitar

Everyone makes a big deal about it, and he gets up there and talks about how much he's winning, gives absolutely no information, and that's it.

But although he said nothing, I think it's important for us to address some of the things that he did say.

Number one, I wanna talk about what he addressed on, on, in, in the Iran war.

And I'm saying this as a veteran of the Iraq War and the Afghanistan War.

Also, just as an Army soldier and understanding how wars are fought and understanding military strategy.

Number one, he opened up this rambling fucking yap- yap- yapathon with, um, by saying that they've had great battlefield victories.

Um, I wanna point out that just having the Air Force bomb key and designated locations are not great battlefield victories.

He tried to, he struggled, but he didn't.

Yeah

And I've been following that, hoping to find something credible, and now it would appear that there's some credibility to that statement to the tune of possibly 150 soldiers.

What people...

I think what people don't think about, and it's okay if you don't think about it, because unless you've been there and done that, it's difficult to have these thoughts sometimes.

But what I want you to think about is each 150 of those potentially injured soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines, um, are people.

These are people with a story to tell.

They got a family, they got a life, they had goals, they had aspirations.

Mm

Oh.

Because, by the way, it shouldn't be a super controversial take to say that white people- or, Black people aren't apes.

Like, this should be the non-partisan line and we can all kind of, you know, uh, hang our hats here.

Uh, yeah, Black people are not apes.

Well, that's pretty, that's pretty easy.

But nope, it was offensive.

You saw Markwayne Mullin, uh, from Oklahoma, try to rip the sign away from, um, Al Green, because he was that offended that you would dare suggest Black people are not apes.

True that.

What do you s- do, what do you say to that?

No, I, I agree.

I think that I, I'm worried about will Democrats step up and hold people accountable? Because, uh, going back to January 1st, 2020, uh, or sorry, January 6th, 2021, Donald Trump wouldn't even be in office right now, and we wouldn't be dealing with any of this, if we held him accountable for what happened then.

If Merrick Garland grew a spine, if the Democrats put their foot down, we wouldn't even be here.

You know, we didn't hold the Confederacy accountable after the Civil War [chuckles] That's why we're here.

We actually wrote Section Three of the 14th Amendment after the Civil War, so that if you ever tried to overthrow the government, you couldn't serve in the government, much less be president, much less, uh, all these other positions that are now in there.

I mean, uh, during the congressional hearing yesterday, it was pointed out that Pam Bondi hired on her staff, one of the January 6th insurrectionists that were... that was pardoned.

That's okay

According to Sam Stein, it has been the White House has taken it down, but your, your thoughts?

I, I saw it last night, and, you know, I saw some people arguing, "Do you think that he really posted this? Do you think..." Yeah, of course, I think he really posted that.

Your default position should not be maybe he didn't.

Your default should po- position should be to understand why he definitely did.

And so I, I, I, I did a whole TED Talk on this in 2022.

I...

And, and I opened my, my speech by saying, "You know, Donald Trump, there's a lot of people that say Donald Trump ushered in this, you know, new age of white supremacy, that Donald Trump ushered in, uh, hate and all this stuff," and that's not true.

Mm

This is no backing down." You don't think that they're backing down at all, that this may be an, even an escalation? Is that correct?

Yeah, I mean, I do.

In fact, since our conversation this morning, Don, not to jump ahead of that part, but I'm talking to people on the ground in Minneapolis who are saying to me they're shocked at how active ICE has been on the ground in Minneapolis today.

They even believed that when Bovino left, there would at least be some type of tactical pause, some type of lull in ICE operations while they change over switch from Bovino to Homan.

But what I'm hearing instead is, "Holy shit! -...

it's more active today than it's been in a, in a week or so.

Uh, so it kind of backs up what I was saying.

Mm-hmm.

How great is that?

I've been out here asking this radical left lunatic violent mob, um, what are, what are their radical ideas.

And I've been hearing things like democracy, housing, healthcare, freedom.

Just lots of radical-

Breaking news, please.

All right, listen.

I had to, I had to leave the studio because that's the only way they would tell me the secret location of the frog.

I found him, the frog.

How are you, brother?

Uh, you know, I- I, anytime I'm with a community of people who are standing up against fascism, who are standing up against ICE, I'm always good.

This is, this is where I wanna be.

I wanna be outside screaming, "Fuck ICE." Screaming, "Fuck the kidnappers." Fighting against the system.

And one thing that motivates me about Chicago is Chicago is showing out.

I don't know how long you've been here, Don, but they're showing out.

I mean, this is where we're supposed to be.

I wanna, I wanna lend my platform to Chicago.

Columbia, engineered for whatever.

... fired.

You're gonna lose your job.

A friend of mine who had put up some not so friendly Charlie Kirk posts and, uh, who is a s- uh, employee of the Department of Defense, civilian employee, has been for a long time, um, he went to his IG where he had initially put that post up, that very negative IG post, and he tagged Pete Hegseth and he said, "Fucking fire me then." Because this is censorship.

This is 100%, um, attacking the Constitution.

This is attacking freedoms and liberties.

This is...

You, you get my point, Jolly.

But there is good reason to be conflicted about Charlie Kirk, who he was and his legacy.

Yeah, I agree.

Before I kind of – I want to respond to what you're saying.

I also want to remind everybody today is September 11th.

Over 3,000 people lost their lives 24 years ago, and Donald Trump hasn't made a single statement about that.

About a month or so ago, two – Congress people, state legislatures in Minnesota lost their life.

Donald Trump couldn't even show up to their funeral.

Jolly, that's fucked up, man.

Go ahead.

We hear all these people talk about the Second Amendment was the da-da-da.

If you actually ever go research the reason the Second Amendment was written, it was this.

The, the people that wrote the founding documents of this country stated that if a president is in charge of a peacetime army, uh, he may use that army to oppress and suppress the people.

So to prevent a president from using a peacetime army to become a king, they believed we shouldn't have a peacetime army.

We should have a militia, a well-regulated militia, uh, that was necessary to the, uh, security of a free state.

And so that's why the Second Amendment was written, and that's because the people that came here, um, i- uh, the colonists that came here, um, they knew what a monarchy looks like.

Mm-hmm.

(laughs)

... you had mentioned, you had mentioned, um, that why are people calling it the Trump parade? Why are, you know, making it about Trump? Um, so number one, the United States Army spokesperson came out, uh, in, I think it was about mid-May, early May sometime when the parade was really starting to become a real thing, and said that they've been planning the army parade for two years and there was...

I'm sorry, the army birthday for two years and there was no parade as part of that birthday commemoration.

It was Donald Trump, after he won the election, this is factual, anyone's welcome to go research what I'm saying, the, uh, Department of the Army spokesperson made this statement, um, but said that it was Donald Trump that approached them shortly after winning the election to immediately start the conversation of including a parade in this, uh, birthday commemoration.

And secondly, um, so as a veteran and the other two veterans on the panel here can attest to this, most of my friends are veteran and many of them are still active duty.

Uh, so I have a lot of people I can readily call at any moment, um, who are active duty soldiers.

Prior to this Live, I spoke directly with two high-ranking army officers.

Yeah.

It might actually kill the bill.

That's a good point.

That's a good point, 'cause you know what? I think, I think that Trump has strongly underestimated the backing that Elon Musk was giving his threats to Republicans.

Okay.

So, um, those people who follow me know this about me.

I spend a lot of time on Capitol Hill.

Matter of fact, right after this interview, I'm jumping on my motorcycle, going straight to DC, and I got a four o'clock, um, Under the Influence episode with, uh, Senator Ruben Gallego of Arizona.

... as he wanted out of it, and then...

You know, uh, I'm not here to talk about his religion, but I don't, I don't appreciate when somebody wants to impose their religious conviction on someone else.

So no, like, what you just described like, "Hey, I agree with your, you know, religious views, but don't impose on my mind." Dude, we agree wholeheartedly, but this is...

You know, in the church, when I was a kid in church, we are taught there's a spiritual warfare.

That's what we're taught.

This is, this is a very fundamental part of our teaching, that there's a spiritual warfare happening, that we're always in the end times and that we, the people of the church have to fight f- you know, in the Army of God against this pending antichrist.

And that ev- for every inch of ground we give, the devil takes, you know? And if we don't fight that, um, the devil's gonna take over the world and then our children are ruined.

And so we have to fight this spiritual warfare to keep our children safe.

And she stands there at the podium with a gigantic cross around her neck, you know, looking all, you know, coiffed and so on, and then she lies, lies like she's paid to lie, by the fib, right? How dangerous is it when these blatant falsehoods from the podium in the White House, in the briefing room, go unchecked by half the media and rewarded by the base?