U.S. talent.

That's probably what I'm most passionate about.

I've been in the people industry for over 25 years.

I was in their what they called then their people advantage practice.

And from there, I left at one point about six or seven years later, left and started doing some of my own consulting very quickly that morphed into how do I find the right talent? So I started risk results almost 20 years ago, and it was a time in the United States when we had pretty high unemployment.

So sure, there were lots of people available.

But the question is, how do I find the right one? At that time, all these people are applying, but are they the right person for my company? And so that was sort of the entrance for me for recruiting.

How do you make people come how do you make them come