What was he like going into that freshman year? How was he feeling about pledging a fraternity?

It wasn't something that we saw for him, but it happened very quickly.

He graduated from high school.

He had been very, very close to a group of guys who had gone through a Spanish immersion program from kindergarten to 12th grade together.

And so I think he was looking for a similar kind of group to connect with, to find his place in a new campus, a new setting.

And so that summer, he was approached by some ATO members, and he got connected with them kind of before we knew what happened, unfortunately.

As it got more serious that summer before school started, he said that he wanted to join, that they had offered him a place.

What does that mean for you as someone who's involved in the advocacy world of anti-hazing? And what does that mean for you with the chance of being able to tell Sam's story?