Mm-hmm.

And so I went to Philadelphia first.

Um, it was a weird story.

So, like, I got sober, like, my senior year, and so I started Going to, um, you know, like sober meetings and like sober spaces.

And so, um, and then I stopped like hanging out with like my ki- the kids, and started hanging out with like a lot of the like sober hillbillies.

And like we did the whole like recovery work together.

Mm-hmm.

[laughs]