But if you were to break it down for me, like, do you think men are only attracted to women that other men want?

I think much more than they realize, because when we think about desire, we think it's because the object pulls us, whether that's a bowl of food, whether that's a life partner, whether that's a career.

We think it must just be between me desiring something that will actually satisfy me.

That's why I'm so desirous of it.

And what Gerard says is that that's not fully true.

In many circumstances, we desire an object because it's associated with a prestigious model.

Right.

Like they died and woke up as a kid?