And was it always your plan when you went back to the farm in 2014 that this was going to be part of how you farmed, or was it a, a just a natural something that progressed or something that came out of a, a challenge or a necessity?

Yeah, it came out of a challenge or, or necessity.

So I discovered this, you know, biochar carbon that's come from photosynthesis of, of plants.

You know, where do I get it from? Who's making it? And it just was nothing out there.

Putting on my engineering hat was like, "Well, how do we scale this up? How do we make it better? How do we make it simple enough for a farmer to run?" All of these criteria had to be met for it to be successful.

And then the divergent from that was like, how are we gonna make it cheap enough for farmers? Um, unfortunately, making biochar you need three tons of material to make one ton, so it can be costly if you just focus on biochar.

The balance of that, so the other...

When you first did it, did you do it because it made good business sense or because it would reduce emissions, or because you were just really interested because you had your chemical engineer brain happening in the background and you knew there was a solution to this problem, or a bit of both?