You've got to do something.

Yeah, well, fortunately, the Centre for Research at Freemasonry, the university was still operating at that time.

And Professor Andrew Prescott said, well, why don't you talk to them about the work of the centre here? Which is what I did.

When the Grand Master of Italy heard that I was coming to Arezzo to do that, he came as well.

And after we'd exchanged books, we... he'd written and I'd written, but it was the Sinclairs of Roston that I'd done then.

He heard about Amadeus being formed in Derbyshire.

He said, oh, I'd like to form a music lodge in Italy.

It's coming together beautifully, isn't it?