How did you first hear about ADCs? Is there anything you know now that you wish you had known then?

I was working for a radiation oncology software company based in Sweden when I saw blood in my urine.

And I was familiar with cancer from my pet work in terms of brain cancer, lung cancer, but bladder was not on my radar at all.

My wife insisted that I go see my GP.

My GP was worried enough that we had a CT done that found some wall thickening that was suspicious for bladder cancer.

And he referred me to a urologist he knew where I had my first cystoscopy ever, where we saw a large tumor that was obstructing the right ureter and leading to a little bit of back pain due to hydronephrosis.

I got introduced, I was diagnosed under managed care, which was the first time I'd ever really needed insurance.

I think, extraordinary.