Right.

Like, um, so yeah, I was, uh, I was, um, I, I flew helicopters in the military and I thought that was going to be my life.

Right.

And, uh, many overseas, uh, deployments later, I figured that, um, I was going to miss a lot of time with my family.

And so, uh, they call it kind of dropping your letter.

I dropped my, my resignation letter in 2018, which is typically about a year before you get out.

It was looking for what I was going to do when I grew up.

right?

Um, John, I am curious, how did you get involved with Highway, and what did you do before?

Yeah.

Um, so I, I actually started in the military.

Um, I did 11 years of active duty service flying helicopters, um, for the Navy.

And then, uh, did multiple deployments and decided I had to do something different.

Um, in 2019, I co-founded a startup called Neutral, which was digital freight matching.

So, uh, I, I started in the industry just literally sitting behind carrier reps and dispatchers and load planners at brokers and carriers, um, trying to learn, like, w- how they, how freight is actually booked, how freight is actually moved.

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