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John Tinsman

Jun 11, 2026

16:24
How are you thinking about this IPO already at over a trillion in valuation? So
16:29
they had 18 billion in revenue for the last 12 months.
16:35
they're going to bring in, I mean, $15 billion from Anthropic and $11 billion from Google a year.
16:41
So, I mean, they're going to bring in just from XAI $26 billion in the next 12 months.
16:47
So even without any Starlink in the launch services, you know, and then once you add those in, you realize that there is going to be, I mean, you add those on top of what they already had, there's going to be like 150% revenue growth year over year.
17:01
It is what it seems like to me.
17:02
So that's a really high number, right? And that usually warrants a higher price to sales and a higher PE ratio.

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24:29
Well, I
1:44
And I think just walking us through that, because most people hear AI investing, they think Nvidia, but your framework filters for something more specific, from what I understand.
1:54
Yeah.
1:54
So, uh, my first ETF I launched in 2022 is AOTG.
1:58
That's the ticker, the AOT Growth and Innovation ETF.
2:02
Uh, so you know, I came from the world of market making, which was all about high speed and algori- uh, and algorithmic trading and, uh, s- statistical probability.
2:12
So I tried to take that, uh, statistical probability to long-term investing.
2:16
And so when you invest, you know, 10 years from now, you can almost guarantee that the stocks that have gone up the most have had the best earnings growth.

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