Yeah, there is something...

yeah okay last year's concourse there were two cars that were perfect one is a 155 v6 and one is a duetto so very difficult to separate but how old's the 155 30 something years isn't it now so that is pretty amazing there are very very few cars that good anyway so we allow restorations the show and shine allows any number of modifications to the car So all you're really looking at is how well it presented it is for that.

And to be honest, a Concours winning car like the Duetto could enter the show and shine because it is pretty shiny.

So a lot of work has gone into making it a show car.

So that's the main difference.

And there's an age cut off for both of them? There is a 10-year cutoff.

We don't allow anything in less than 10 years to either competition.

That constituted