And could you tell us a little bit about your life's journey and how you, how those experiences basically brought you to where you are today?

Sure will.

I mean, oftentimes when you get asked a question like this, you start with, "I was born in blah, blah, blah." I won't say the year, but, uh, most people could figure it out if they just looked at all my gray hair.

But I won't do that.

I'll actually go, uh, uh, backwards a little bit and start with my last job first, not obviously the things that you've spoken about, being a professor of the practice here at the Sam Nunn School, which also, by the way, I'm dual appointment in the...

Just it's a little bit of a public service announcement, uh, s- Sam Nunn School of International Affairs at Georgia Tech, the School of Cybersecurity and Privacy at Georgia Tech, and also an external fellow at two organizations.

We call them IRI, but they're essentially umbrella organizations.

So the question is really how has Homeland Security priorities changed, uh, from time, uh, you saw from the early days until, until I guess, you know, the, even today now and how you might reflect, uh, on some of the, the changes and differences?