Like where do those rules actually apply and what's the plus and minuses of that?

Well, it stems from, I always try to, you know, stay true to what's got us here and what, what I kind of gravitate towards.

And so no photos started when we were, you know, we started, we started about 20 years ago, Sagewood.

And, um, The premise was that we thought that we were promoted.

We thought that we could do a better version of nightlife in Los Angeles, specifically our hometown.

We thought New York and London was paving the way with music and aesthetics and design and service and all that.

And so that was how we started.

Your first venue, the original H-Wood, that shutdown, what'd you learn from that that you can take to today and share with entrepreneurs out there?

Like where do those rules actually apply and what's the plus and minuses of that?

Well, it stems from, I always try to, you know, stay true to what's got us here and what, what I kind of gravitate towards.

And so no photos started when we were, you know, we started, we started about 20 years ago, Sagewood.

And The premise was that we thought that we were promoted.

We thought that we could do a better version of nightlife in Los Angeles, specifically our hometown.

We thought New York and London was paving the way with music and aesthetics and design and service and all that.

And so that was how we started.

Your first venue, the original H-Wood, that shutdown, what'd you learn from that that you can take to today and share with entrepreneurs out there?

So why don't you just tell us a little bit about the H-Wood Group and what you guys do and why we're sitting here.

I'll take this.

First of all, that statement, I actually appreciate because we kind of set out originally to do that each venue to speak for itself.

So most people do know the venues that we have Delilah, Nice Guy, Bird Streets Club.

Brian and I set out almost 20 years ago to do exactly what we're doing now, which was create the preeminent luxury hospitality group.

restaurant we started with nightclubs to be honest we're a nightlife we're promoters and own nightclubs and then realize our skill set what we like and our crowd is much more geared towards restaurants and uh the combo of social dining and i think uh if you cut to today i think we kind of were one of the pioneers of that whole stuff bringing back the supper club world um and so you know currently we have 13 venues that we you know own and operate and um have uh five in construction right now

We should do one of our own.

Yeah.