What are some counter a- counter anchoring techniques? I'm curious.

Um, so exposing that.

So, like, one, you'll see, um, personal injury cases.

They'll say, like, uh, "Let's talk about the value of human life.

And, um, you know, the stealth bomber is one of the most expensive aircrafts, you know, in the world.

It costs some hundreds of millions of dollars to make.

Um, but if there's ever a situation where it's between the aircraft and the human, we're always gonna try to save the human first and not the aircraft.

What would be sort of a hook that you would use? Just curious.

Snow always thought the Jerry Springer show was as far away from the real Jerry as anything he could imagine.

It's just a stupid show.

Well, why did he keep doing it?

Money talks and bullshit walks.

That's why he did it.

Money is money.

That's it.

I mean, Leon, come on.

But John Snow, Springer's friend and former body man, never lost hope that his boss would eventually be back.

In the heat of the moment, when it first happens, you're, what's, you know, you always think of them, the glass is not half full.

It's half empty.

No.

But give it a year, it goes away.

You know, it's yesterday's news.

In an interview with The Cincinnati Post about his future, he said, "I'm convinced that for me to survive as a human being of any particular worth, I've got to do something with my life that's more than just making money." Springer started to regroup, and in 1975, he announced that he was seeking re-election to city council.

And I, I guarantee you, of those women that were at Western Bowl at 6:00 in the morning, throwing gutter balls and doing whatever, and Jerry's, "Hi, I'm Jerry Springer.

This is good versus evil.

You couldn't have described it any better.

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Something about that account didn't sit right with Detective Snow.

You're there from roughly 7:30 until almost midnight.

So that's pretty close to four and a half hours.

Four and a half hours is a long time to be outside in the rain, in the mud with a two and a half year old.

Does that make sense?