How, how has that experience-- what has that experience taught you?

Man, um, to start, it's, it, there's nothing I will say that, that truly captures it.

It's not even, like, words don't do it justice.

Like, um, I post these things because I really feel like there's some embedded lessons that I truly can't verbalize that hopefully someone takes away.

As such, you know, we couldn't get pregnant forever.

We've been married, uh, now for 12 years.

We tried to start a family immediately, couldn't get pregnant forever, and then all of a sudden, here's Leo, and that was, like, the most joyful gift that I could have ever been given.

That's awesome