Yeah,

and their attitude really was they didn't want to be in your face, prophesizing.

If people wanted to talk to them, they could.

And if they wanted to talk baseball, that's fine as well.

One of them had been approached by someone whose parent had recently died and they hadn't had a chance to talk to anybody.

And something in the interaction with the friar, brought out this person's feeling comfortable talking about the death of a parent and how to process it.

And I think, Jan, what I would say is that this is part of the overall whole of this film, that it is about looking at these similarities, but there's also kind of a theme here about how to make your life better, how to live a more enriched life.

OK, and he has a fascinating background.

And just when you when you talk to the man about the game of baseball.

Well, he is an extraordinarily charismatic individual, really smart.

He's not only a very passionate baseball fan, but he's also a wonderful teacher, a teacher both in the law school and in the school of religion.

And that passion does come across.

But I'm not looking at that so much when I was reading the book for the first time.

I have to think, well, is there a film here? Is the story interesting enough? Is the narrative multilayered enough that it's worthy of being a film? And what's the approach? And as you happily noted, he John had this structure in the book of this nine innings.

So instead of chapters, he had innings.

So like how much effort went into that kind of equality of the faiths?

And my God, I mean, I am still in awe and I am still carrying this journey forward that you created.

Thanks, Sarah.

I appreciate your having me.

This was just an inspiring film to make.

One would not think that there's any discernible connection between baseball and faith, baseball and religion.

And when I read this book by John Sexton, I thought, wow.

This is such a fresh and original exploration.

It's for all people and you can have your glory moments.