What's going on?

Well, John, the update is that we're awaiting the mayor of New York City to sign the bill.

It's my understanding that he's committed to sign the bill next week.

And when he signs that bill, well, we're going to go to court.

And we believe when we go to court, we will be well on our way to getting the bill overturned.

on several different points and uh...

when that happens i think that the tables will turn a little bit i don't know that the we're gonna win the fight in the long term but certainly in the short term i think we're gonna turn the tables a little bit on this new york city council that has done something very heinous to work in people

Having these horse carriages has been here, what, over 100 years?

What's going on?

Well, John, the update is that we're awaiting the mayor of New York City to sign the bill.

It's my understanding that he's committed to sign the bill next week.

And when he signs that bill, well, we're going to go to court.

And we believe when we go to court, we will be well on our way to getting the bill overturned on several different points.

And when that happens, I think that the tables will turn a little bit.

I don't know that we're going to win the fight.

Having these horse carriages has been here, what, over 100 years?

What does working class mean to you?

Well, certainly 1980s Garrison Beach was a different place than it is today.

Southern Brooklyn in general is a different place now than it was before Hurricane Sandy.

You know, I'm not sure that working class is a viable term anymore, honestly.

Why? Well, what would be the difference between working class and middle class? I think when I was a kid, it was maybe predicated upon homeownership.

And homeownership is nearly impossible now for kids growing up in Brooklyn.

You inherit a house, perhaps, from your parents.

John, you want to take it?

What is your background? Where are you from? How did you get into this? What's your schooling? Tell me.

Well, I have a high school diploma.

I went to Calhoun Catholic School in Brooklyn.

So I graduated Najwa High School in East Flatbush in Brooklyn.

I'm from a place called Garrison Beach, so largely working class Irish neighborhood in Southern Brooklyn.

I still live here.

I live right where my, my father grew up.

Will AI eventually replace transit workers? Is that a threat that you people would be worried about?

Okay, what is your background? Where are you from? How did you get into this? What's your schooling? Tell me.

Well, I have a, I have a high school diploma.

I went to 12 years of Catholic school in Brooklyn.

So I graduated Nazareth High School in, uh, in East Flatbush in Brooklyn.

Uh, I'm from a place called Garrison Beach, a largely working class Irish neighborhood in Southern Brooklyn.

I still live here.

I live right where my, my father grew up.

Will AI eventually replace transit workers? Is that a threat that you people would be worried about?

Why are they doing

that? Well, we believe and there's a lot of evidence that points to this as being the truth.

We believe that Manhattan real estate people want to develop the stables that the horses are in.

It makes perfect sense, and there's a lot of evidence that points to that, as I said.

So, Night Class is largely, it was founded by real estate developers.

Night Class is the main advocacy group that wants to get rid of the horses out of Central Park.

We believe that has nothing to do with seeking the well-being of the horses.

The

Why are they doing that?

Well, we believe and there's a lot of evidence that points to this as being the truth.

We believe that Manhattan real estate people want to develop the stables that the horses are in.

It makes perfect sense, and there's a lot of evidence that points to that, as I said.

So, Night Class is largely, it was founded by real estate developers.

Night Class is the main advocacy group that wants to get rid of the horses out of Central Park.

We believe that has nothing to do with seeking the well-being of the horses.

Anything else you want to tell the American people on Sunday morning?

But your leaning is that in general it's, it's looking more likely.

I believe that it's very likely right now, and there's a couple of reasons for that.

First of all, which I believe is underreported, uh, Governor Hochul, um, hired a, a lawyer that is an infamous anti-worker lawyer, and he's the lawyer that actually triggered the 2005 transit strike in New York City.

So she regurgitated him, brought him back, and he's now assigned to this Long Island Railroad negotiations.

And she, if she's relying on him to, to solve this before it, a strike occurs, she's, uh, she's deluded.

In, in fact, it's very likely that the opposite will happen.

He's the kind of guy that will, will trigger a strike, not, not solve a problem and, and, and not have a strike.

John, what would happen if between now and midnight, uh, the union members decide not to, um, uh, to go on strike? Wouldn't that, uh, create an opportunity to probably pick up a few pieces, um, that you might otherwise not get?

I've heard too many bad things lately.

Yeah, so, you know, I do think there's problems.

There are problems related to air traffic control, which actually go beyond the TW's ballywick.

I know there's an effort underway right now to actually rebuild the air traffic control systems.

Super important.

From our perspective, there's one big secret the dirty big secret of the airline industry is the amount of maintenance work that they do in foreign countries and this has been a fight that the TWU has fought for a long time we fought against American Airlines to keep jobs on USA soil we believe those fights will actually raise their ugly heads again as we go into 2026 and beyond to fight we're ready for we're going to protect these U.S soil jobs that the working communities of America are built around

How do you envision 2026 for the American people?

mean certainly bringing jobs back onto u.s soil is uh of paramount importance i i think that government uh bringing workers back into america or bringing jobs back into america manufacturing uh capacity combined with organizing by the trade union movement will propel working families forward you know these the tariffs are allegedly going to work and bring these jobs back hopefully they do but you know for me and you know i'm just a track worker but it seems that The tariffs need to be accompanied by industrial domestic policy that actually facilitates that growth as well on the domestic side.

They're part of the ambiance of Central Park and they've been there for 200 years.

Well, certainly they're definitely part of the ambiance of Central Park, and that has certainly borne itself out in the polling.

The goers to the park don't want to see the horses disappear.

They understand that the horses are part of the fabric of Central Park, the horse and carriages.

But you said it right, for us it's 170 jobs that are largely held by immigrants.

They've historically been a pathway into economic security and into the middle class for workers.

And there's an allegation going on by very powerful interests, real estate, and what I want to call social progressives that have nothing better to do than to make accusations that the horses are mistreated.

I hear they want to put some electric vehicles in the park.