But John, te- tell us why Lella Lombardi is, uh, is your choice for the best female racing driver.

Thanks, Paul.

Uh, I think in the first instance, um, it's worth saying that Lella would absolutely hate to be described in that way because, um, Lella was fundamentally of the opinion that underneath the helmet, men and women were the same, and was adamant to describe herself not as a woman racing driver, but as a racing driver who was a woman.

Uh, and it was a distinction that she cared about very deeply.

Uh, so Lella's an enigmatic figure in many ways because, um, she is known fundamentally as being the only woman who ever scored a point or half a point in F1.

So if you, if you, if you start from the premise when F1 started in 1950, 1948 if we're being technically correct, but when the championship started in 1950, since then, there's been give or take 900 people who've tried to qualify.

Of those 900, five were women.

Yeah.