Tell me your concerns here.

We have a housing industry that is in a crisis, but you have to look at the foundation as what the problem is.

It's not just because the market has slowed down.

It's because housing has become unaffordable in this province, and it has been a problem for a long time.

But 35 to 45% of the cost of a new home today, whether it's a condo or otherwise, is government.

It's government taxes.

It's government regulations.

John Rustad, do you agree with him?

Yes.

Is government.

And it's, I hate to say it that way as politics.

They don't like to degrade the people or the process, but that is just the reality.

And so for the NDP, how did they get elected? Well, they know that their approach cannot win an election from an economic perspective, because if people are focused on the economy, they aren't the party.

So how did they get elected? Well, what they try to do is they look at where do they get votes? Well, they get votes from unionized workers.

They get votes from government workers.

Okay.

Can you put into words some of the concerns your caucus and the party had about your leadership?

Like I say, there was people on the right side of the spectrum that were concerned because I wasn't being right-wing enough in my communications.

And then there was people on the left side of the political spectrum that were concerned because they felt we had tilted too far to the right.

Those groups ultimately aligned to get change, which is kind of interesting because they don't agree by themselves in terms of politics.

Ultimately, that infighting that was going on was tainting the party's ability to be able to move forward and to do the work that needed to be done, even though, you know, this is probably the first time in, in political history in this country where a political party like ours, which was up, you know, somewhere between two and eight points in the polls over the NDP, felt it necessary to change out a leader.

What wasn't right-wing enough?

Well, um, just in terms of the, the way we messaged.

Uh, so for example, take, uh, the indigenous issue, which is huge in British Columbia today, especially with the court case, uh, and private property rights and all these sort of things.

What's been your opinion on Mr. Eby's position that no pipelines will go to Tidewater in British Columbia?

Well, I think it's an absolutely undefensible position that he's doing.

It's ridiculous in my perspective.

This is British Columbia's coast, but it's also Canada's coast.

And other provinces should have a right to be able to move goods through British Columbia out to tidewaters.

And especially when you think about what's going on south of the border.

We are selling our oil to the Americans because we have nowhere else to sell it at a 20% to 30% discount.

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