And we have seen an explosion... by this federal government in particular, hiring people that now work for the Federal Public Service.

Now, I read that article on the front page of the Daily Telegraph and I agreed with every single word Mr Howard said.

Good on him for saying it.

These are important ideas.

However, it's only half of it.

Unless you're a Green or Labor left, everyone in politics says, oh, well, we've got to try and cut back government spending.

The government's getting a bit too big taxes too.

I would suggest if they can get away with it, just keep mum on what you've got and what you intend to do with your firearms until there's an election.

They might give New South Wales a miss entirely, John.

Okay, well, look, data centres are the engine rooms of future growth.

A data centre is just a very big computer server.

So if we all want to enjoy our computers and make the most of them and help the economy grow through having a very efficient computer system, we need data centres.

Now, the good news is, Chris, Australia's got the fifth highest amount of data centres already in the whole world, and that's a good thing.

But what's happened here in New South Wales is we want to build a lot more.

The private sector does, and the government has now passed a law last week in which they've said that they've got to get 40% of their energy, not just from renewables, but from wind.

Doesn't she deserve the first podium?

And I've got to say, I don't think there's another federal politician more hated than Chris Bowen.

Well, in the last financial year, Mr Chris Bowen spent about $350,000 on international air travel.

That's just commercial air travel.

Then there was about another $200,000 worth of the Royal Air Force flying around.

Now, a couple of months ago, when we were having one of these chats, you said, look, if the global warming is such a... such an existential crisis for mankind why can't we do it via zoom okay and if they all did it via zoom that would send a message to it to to the punters out there would think oh well they are taking it seriously maybe there's something to this but they go around and preach we're not allowed to use carbon dioxide and they are the biggest guzzlers of it at all and of course where's he been to recently saudi arabia saudi arabia the world headquarters of carbon dioxide releases And I love what they do.

That energy that we get out of the ground in Saudi Arabia powers the world.

Thank you, Saudi Arabia.

So the lines turning up to your local public hospital are only going to be longer.

They don't like the word profit, do they?

And profit is a beautiful word.

What it means is someone's selling a, a product.

It, it...

The businessman doesn't have a gun to force people to buy their product.

It means people are buying, voluntarily buying the businessman's product- And the businessman's making a little bit of a margin there.

The customer's happy, the supplier's happy, the businessman's happy, everyone's happy.

Mm-hmm.

Exactly.

And...

Bob Hawke and Paul Keating, to their credit, Labor Party guys, without saying these words, but this is what they did with their policies, Chris, they basically said, yeah, you know what, Margaret Thatcher's right about everything.

And this is why we've had a pretty good economy in this country for about 30 years.

Howard and Costello did a good job, but they were basically just continuing on the hard work that Paul Keating and...

Bob Hawke had done.

Now, now then Mr. Chalmers comes along and you know, this guy's so politically ambitious, Chris, that he went and wrote a PhD.

And he's created a record as well because tax revenue is now 24% of the economy, which is above the 23.9% level that has been treated for so long as the ceiling under previous governments.

and we get the debt down.

Now, what's gone wrong with that cycle now is that we had a Liberal government that handed over a massive debt to the Labor government.

And then, yes, of course, the Labor, particularly Albanese, left-wing Labor, he can't help himself.

Of course, he has to go and spend more money.

Occasionally, a Labor government doesn't have to spend money.

Look, Chris Minns isn't terrible here in New South Wales in terms of throwing money away all the time.

But, of course, Albanese will because he's a left-winger, has to believe in all these big projects.

their colleagues in the

Historically, what do we

know? What people need to understand is that there's two types of human societies.

There's one type of human society respects property rights under the rule of law, and the others do not.

Now, what happened here is that Let's talk about, look, all my ancestry is Britain, Ireland, Scotland, England.

Now, in the year 43 AD, the Romans came in and conquered Britain and the Britons fought back and then they lost.

And the Romans were there for 400 years.

And you know what? That was the best thing that ever happened to the British.

If they preference each other and don't turn their backs on each other.

But we've reduced aspiration left, right and centre since that last budget.

You look at little Singapore.

Firstly, it's tiny.

Secondly, it's got no natural resources.

But they've got super low tax and a very pro-capitalist attitude.

And look at Singapore, you know, the highest living standards in the world and a beacon of freedom and prosperity.

And what? Because they unleash entrepreneurs.

Now, when I was at school, I went to a public school

it's a cracker isn't it

This is a ruby red Labor seat.

It has never voted Liberal.

Now, that's interesting because we all know sometimes there's a big landslide to the Liberals and sometimes there's a big landslide to Labor.

But even when there's a landslide to Liberals, good old Secret Harbour has stuck with the Australian Labor Party up until two days ago.

Now, a year ago, Pauline Hanson started going up in the polls.

And the biggest factor then was...

Has that sunk in to these faceless bureaucrats, John?

Of course.

So I think, I think we've clearly got 70% of people out there think we've got too much immigration.

Broad consensus, and the reason we have a fairly broad consensus is because it's so true.

We've got too much mass immigration brought to us by both political parties.

And, uh, so yes, so it's the most important around the entire Western world.

And this is what I've said, Chris, I've said this for since before COVID.

We need a five-year immigration pause.

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It, it flows through to younger people who are trying to get in.

Well, look, uh, it, it creates a general misery across society when there's a property market decline.

Now, when I first came to Sydney in 1991, the only thing people were talking about was the, there was about a 15% drop across the board in property prices, and it was a really, really, really big deal.

And now, now since then, we haven't really had a property market crash in this country.

Now, this may be the property market crash that we had to have.

Now, I know that sounds cruel and horrible, but we have had...

We've got the most expensive real estate in the world behind Hong Kong.

Mm.

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That 1988 little, that little rule.

Because every, every two or three years we have this big new Hollywood blockbuster of the smear machine called ICAC.

Okay? And most of the time, not always, most of the time it's people on the right.

And now what, w- what, what, what, what has, uh, made them, you know, what, what has made them ...

ICAC's doing an investigation into itself because that conversation you and I had, Chris, so it's good news.

Now, what was the concerns? Uh, my, my concern is that somebody in ICAC is leaking to the Sydney Morning Herald.

And what was their response?

I'm not complaining because I love getting scoops.

Yeah, okay.

[laughs] Well, look, ICAC does create a lot of drama and theater every couple of years, I'll give you that.

Now, when, when Nick Greiner set up ICAC in 1988, way back then, he put into the act then that if any employee of ICAC or any agent of ICAC leaks to the media, it said you can go to jail for it.

Okay? They made it re- 'cause they wanted there to be no corruption in the anti-corruption body, which is fair enough.

Now, I think they've just sort of forgotten about this and we've got examples of, of the Sydney Morning Herald openly saying, "Well look, we all know Kate McClymont and ICAC, you know, they're basically two peas in the same pod." Now, what they've, uh, what they, they've openly said it.

They said on the, on the, on the 12th of July, they said, "The Herald has been told by multiple sources unauthorized to speak publicly that," blah, blah, blah about ICAC.

If the law says you're not allowed to leak from ICAC to the media, then we should be following that, particularly when this is all about transparency and rooting out any bad behavior.

I can hear you clearly.

All right.

Okay.

Well, look, about the Jacinta Allan thing, [clears throat] I'm gonna be the first person that in Australia, Victoria is gonna bounce back and become great again.

Now, it's in a really bad spot right now.

This is not a normal sort of, you know, bad economy.

This is a...

True.

I hope they're more trusted than the ones that we've given money to in previous occasions, John.

Well, look, it's Libertarian Party policy to do two things.

Firstly, to have the government giving away zero foreign aid, 'cause this is where they pick...

They support causes overseas that they like, and they don't fund causes that they don't like.

Now, the federal government should be having absolutely nothing to do with, you know, buying off people on the international stage.

Now, and that means we can cut our taxes if we're paying less foreign aids.

Now then, if Australian citizens wanna donate, they're free to do whatever they want.

Now, what do you make of what Pauline Hanson meant when she said on radio yesterday that domestic violence is a two-way street? Is she condoning violence against women? I don't construe it to mean that.

What concerns you about that timing?

Okay, well, four years ago is a long time.

Now, if there were, you know, if there were criminal allegations being made here by Ray Williams, well, I would encourage the police to go and have a look, but they clearly haven't had a look.

Now, I got into Parliament three years ago.

As soon as I get there, I start hearing whispers around the corridors that Labor is engineering a big ICAC inquiry to be timed with, in, in the lead up to the New South Wales state election.

And here we are, six months to go, or nine months to go.

We've got this big, big, big ICAC inquiry into the Liberal Party, which is, you know, designed to hurt the Liberal Party.

They, they're more powerful than ever.

Yeah.

Bitter, bitter.

And Albanese was Gillard's, I think, deputy prime minister.

And then when on one of the challenges, Albo goes out and gives a press conference and he says, "Look, I love Julia, but look, you know, just bec- for my dev- devotion to the Labor Party, I'm gonna support Kevin Rudd." And he breaks down and cries.

And Julia Gillard said, "Look, I understand.

No problem." And it just sort of made him very human, and he looked like he was doing it out of principle, and he probably was.

I think, I don't think he's a bad person.

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

But so many are still upset, as Jeff Wilson from Wilson Asset Management said, and was quoted in the newspapers today as saying, "It's still a tax on productivity, on aspiration, and a tax on entrepreneurial Australia." Where do you stand with what they've done?

Well, look, they've taken 10 steps backwards, and yes, they, they've made one step forward.

Now, what happened last August was the Prime Minister, Mr. Albanese, called a productivity summit.

Everyone's forgotten about it, but it was this big deal at the time.

It was a two-day summit with the union leaders and the corporate leaders and the academics and all the economists, everything.

And Albo saying, "We've gotta have more productivity.

We've gotta have more productivity." Okay, good.

Yep.

Yeah.

Now, how does this relate to, to, to Pauline Hanson? Okay.

Well, up until about a month ago, the left-wing media, the ABC, the Sydney Morning Herald, the whole lot of them, and the Labor Party were cheering on the rise of Pauline Hanson.

They thought it was funny.

They thought it was great.

Why? 'Cause it was blowing up their traditional enemy, the Liberal Party and the National Party.

Well, now in the last three to four weeks, yes, yes, they've started to go...

Mm

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Okay? A- a- now, wh- why I called on him to resign was this.

He said a week or two ago, he said, it was reported in the papers itself, he says, "The New South Wales economy would all be in recession if it weren't for the renewable rollout.

The renewable rollout is giving us the jobs and the investment." Now, I got up there and I said, "Look, Mr.

[chuckles] Mr.

Treasurer, uh, you cannot see the most obvious thing in the world here.

The renewable rollout is a parasite which is sucking the life out of the real economy.

Yeah.

Can we please welcome John Luddick?

Thank you, Dr. Joe.

Well, look, when we decided to introduce this bill, I was curious to know what the opponents of it were going to say.

And I was curious because there are no good arguments against this bill.

This isn't really a bill about abortion.

It's about, do we think little girls and little boys have equal value? That's what this bill is about.

I would have thought the feminists would have loved this bill.

Now,

John, what, what about you? What are your thoughts? Revivable? Survivable?

Well, the what, what's happened here is that a big part of political success is people in their 20s and 30s that become activists.

The activist class used to join, if they were on the right of center, they used to join the Liberal Party.

They'd get heavily involved.

Those people are not now getting involved.

It...

According to the poll, the only people left voting for the Liberal Party are people like my mother, who's up in, up in Brisbane in a nursing home.

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That's right.

Okay.

Now then his first budget came out after that, okay? And it was...

And his, his...

Keating's polls were okay after he'd won this miracle.

Then he comes out with his first budget, and it's just like Albo's budget.

In fact, Albo's budget's a lot worse, but Keating was bringing in all these taxes.

Okay.

Yeah.

Now, what's happening with the capital gains tax is we now have the second highest capital gains tax in the world.

I think it's behind Denmark.

One of those Scandinavian, you know, high taxing countries.

We're now worse than them.

Now, how did we get to this point? In 1848, so almost 200 years ago, a little nobody called Karl Marx wrote a book called The Communist Manifesto.

It's just a short little book, and he puts this very, very, very bold vision out there.

Like, and someone like Chalmers, who based his PhD around Keating, of all the people in this country, why wouldn't you learn from history on this note?