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John Rizner

John Rizner

Head of AI Legal Drafting at Filevine; former corporate attorney specializing in M&A and legal technology

Jul 14, 2026

2:51
... legal work and, and how, you know, how we should be prepared for that?
2:55
Yeah, totally.
2:56
So, um, I'm gonna talk about it, uh, in connection with a product that I'm working on, a citator a la, you know, Shep- you know, Shepard style citations within Lois.
3:05
And when we started off this kind of investigating our tooling, I had a number of conversations with some, you know, old law school classmates of mine that did far better in law school than I did and went, you know, are, you know, appellate litigators, went through the elite clerkship rounds.
3:19
And I was talking with them.
3:21
I'm like... uh, with them, and I'm like, "You know, if you have the abi- with, with large language models and with, uh, kind of new AI tooling, you know, would you be excited to have to kind of chew through fewer kind of research materials as part of your work?" And what was interesting is all of them were like, "Actually, if I had unlimited time and unlimited resources, I would actually wanna find more and read more as opposed to find less and read less." Um, and they're like, yeah, in a, in a perfect-- And like if they could, if they could, they would love to just like exhaust, you know, boil the ocean, exhaust every possible resource in kind of reading through opinions and reading through, um, you know, re- relevant literature on their case before drafting or writing anything or prare- or preparing anything.
4:06
And so I think that as, you know, as AI tools, especially in the kind of legal research space, the citator space, as they make finding the relevant literature easier and kind of making available more of the relevant literature kind of, uh, kind of an immediate re- I mean, an immediate delivery to the user, I think rather than lawyers spending less time doing research, we're gonna see lawyers do more-- kind of spend more time doing substantive research, with the difference really being as instead of, uh, instead of legal res- like instead of lawyers being like, "All right.

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27:26
I'll, I'll turn it over to you.

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