How does this show up in your faith community? Yeah.

You know, I hesitate to speak on behalf of a group of people.

So I went to, well, I'm going to have to back up on part of my story.

So in 2009, our youngest daughter was killed.

And everything changed.

I often talk to people who share this experience of feeling like a ghost when something like that happens.

Because you watch people doing things, engaged in life, eating, drinking, driving, going to jobs, going to football games, doing stuff.

You know, I have a friend who talks about, you know, there's two fish, like, swimming in the ocean, and one fish says to the other, you know, the older fish says, hey, how's the water? And the fish look at each other and are like, what's water?