How about you, Johnny? Like what's, what's your-- Like what was your first meetup experience? Like how'd you start getting involved and going to these in-person meetup events?

Uh, well, my frame of reference is Pittsburgh, you know.

Um, and it's a little bit insular because Pittsburgh, like Massachusetts, is six hours wide.

Um, so but drive time in a car.

And so, uh, uh, Harrisburg, which is our capital, is on the eastern side of the state.

Philadelphia sits like an hour and a half from like three other major metropolitans.

Uh, New Jersey, Connecticut, uh, Pro- you know what I mean? Like, and Washington, D.C.

... or why you think this.