What do you think the options would be otherwise? How's that been going at your place?

It's going fairly well.

It's interesting because my son is motivated by the almighty dollar.

And when you talk about investing at a young age, like he wants to be an electrician.

So he's applied at the union.

He's waiting to, you know, to test in and all that to get started.

but he comes up to us and he's like, have you guys invested in a Roth IRA? Like he's talking investing in the future right now.

But when you think of that, when you think of a kid starting out, is that when you were talking to your kids, did that dictate like the, you know, the conversation? Like, did you think about, Hey, and talk about it clearly? Like you're taking on real debt here.