Your thoughts when you saw this on Saturday?

I didn't agree with the stand-up.

I'm going to be honest.

You know, I don't...

You gotta look and MMA is a sport where you're talking about, you have all these different disciplines that you're able to utilize.

And it's not something that's supposed to give an advantage to one particular style or one particular striking art, grappling art.

It's supposed to be open.

Do you believe that?

they're they're all within a stone throw of like stoning him to death if they don't stand if he doesn't stand him up john what goes what do you think went through his mind right before he did that i mean because this is not a position you you should stand fighters up ever

no it's you know when you look at it josh it's one of those you know we talk about what's the purpose of mma The purpose of MMA is to show and to showcase that your skill set is better than your opponent's.

Now, it may not be better in every factor of MMA because MMA has so many skill sets.

But if I can make my skill set work against your skill set, then that's what MMA is about.

And this isn't something for anybody.

I don't care who it is, and I love Dan Mergalotti.

He's a great guy, and I know that he's only trying to do what he believes is right.

yeah and fighters haven't started using that as a weapon i'm so very surprised yeah very surprised they haven't

Well,

the UFC is look, They make money for states.

You got to figure when a UFC comes to, I don't care what state it is.

Nevada is different because they're based out of Nevada.

But even there, they raise money for the state in huge amounts.

So when, you know, the UFC will say goes to Texas, right? First off, just look at the airfare that people are using to transport what the UFC is transporting to Texas in just airfare.

And then, okay, let's take a look at the hotel rooms and all of the hotel rooms that they're buying.

Give me your analysis on that.

As he was trying to get up, he had his hands down, and he hit him with some good shots.

He got caught, but I don't think he was hurt.

But he did get touched.

He got touched.

You know, but I always looked at the fight as, you know, this is going to be a rough fight for Evlo and the fact that Volk has proven that he's very tough to keep down.

He did that with, you know, Makachev.

And no disrespect to Evloev, but I look at, you know, their grappling.

know,

it's going to be where they take the youngest guys that they can find to have the most talent and they literally just say hey we're going to throw you into a man tournament in your continent and after you win that tournament we're going to put you into a semi-finals bracket basically and you guys are going to fight to see who wins the whole thing when you get to the semi-finals of that semi-finals bracket and then you're going to fight twice in that same night you and i will talk about the rule set and how we get there but overall what do you think of that idea you know you've got you know europe you've got asia you've got south america north america

love that i think pretty simple markets i think that's well and they're all at this moment you can look and go i can pull out some of the very best talent out of those markets and really have some good.

This is where, you know, Josh, how many times did we talk in the past? Look, people don't understand how many good fighters are out there that are not signed by anybody.

You know, be it the UFC, be it at the time, PFL, Bellator, everyone who was trying.

you don't have that ability to sign everybody that's there.

You're looking for certain things, and you're looking for not only talent as far as their fighting ability, you're looking for their entertainment value, the way they fight.

You're looking for their personality and what they're going to do when they're with the fans and they're talking on the mic and all those things.

He's got a great chin and he is a dog when it comes to taking shots and giving shots.

Yeah.

Very much so, Jim, and, um, we're, we're, we're delighted to have you here.

And, uh, yeah, th- th- this is, this is when you see the, the, the fruits of our work.

The field is filling up well, and with the cattle and, and the horses over the far side, and all the machinery stands are in.

And we have our stewards are very much, uh, in place, and they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're handling the situation well.

So as we, as, as, as we've expected, the crowd are starting to flow, and we are expecting a, a very large crowd.

Thanks to all our patrons, and I want to make a special word of thanks to you patrons that do come and people that support us that are not able to come.

There are some mighty cattle there.

Mm-hmm.

Whether you agree with a, a lot of the underpinnings of the AI revolution, whether you believe we're in a war with China, all of these are things are up for debate, right? But, but it's happening.

It's reality.

The question is, how are they getting their power? And you heard Shapiro there say they need to pay for and generate their own power.

He also said they need to maintain the sanctity of the clean air.

And so at a particularly egregious example of what's going on is in Mississippi.

Southaven, Mississippi, which is this facility that you're looking at on the screen now.

[laughs]

Mm-hmm.

And, um, the layouts were great.

They were fairly high traffic areas.

And, um, we got the pianos in.

It was a pretty quick turnaround, and we learned a lot.

You know, I mean, what's the best way to present them? Uh, you know, you do signage, you do...

You know, you place them in, in good spots.

Mm-hmm

Because he was, I don't want to say disrespectful, he was supposedly the elite trainer at that time.

Well, now he had moved from LAPD.

He had first gone to work for the Department of Energy, training their people to protect nuclear power plants and things like that.

And then he became the...

I guess, trainer and stuff for the International Association of Chiefs of Police at this time.

So he was going around the country training people all over the place, living in Gaithersburg, Maryland.

But when Horian sat down and he started talking to me, his big thing was, you know, where do you train? And I go, no, I'm a police officer here.

Eh,

Hmm.

Okay? It is not a wide strip.

So if I put my hand back here, you know, it's my two fingers together is what the back of the head is, and that's going straight down.

W- Our, our major concern and where we, the whole rule comes from is where the s- what's called the occipital junction, where the skull and the spine come together.

That was what the doctor was truly concerned with.

So that's why I said, "Okay, so we can take like a Mohawk." So let's say a one-inch variance to each side, and when we get to the neck, it opens up where that occipital junction is at and covers the neck.

And since it's the spine, then it starts again going down the spine.

Yeah.

Right.

"I wanna st- I wanna still compete." He was trying to communicate to his corner that, "Hey, I'm having a hard time seeing," and he w- a- anybody that's been boxed up...

And look, and I, I can tell you, it's not that you can't see.

I can see.

I don't see clearly, and sometimes I'm seeing two of something or three of something.

And so, yeah, I'm having a hard time seeing, and that's what he was communicating.

And so when the doctor said, you know, "Oh, we," you know, uh, "w- we need to stop the fight," and he's s- saying that to Mark, you see right away Topuria, who speaks good English, he's saying, "No, no, no, no.

And also he's filing an appeal, you know? How successful can those be? Can you maybe weigh in on a little bit on those?

Do you like this deal or what do you take away from it?

Well, what I take away from it, Brendan is, yeah, I was a little shocked when I saw that Joseph Wall was traded because I think, you know, he's a very good goaltender.

But the thing is, you know, and we saw it last year with him is that he just was so unreliable because he was getting hurt a lot.

And as we all know that he was dealing with those personal issues.

And in terms of Simon Benoit, I mean, he's just a great defender.

And those are two really, you know, good pieces that we had.

And they're both gone now.

But let's see

It didn't look for other possible causes of death, for example, strangulation.

It would be normal in a forensic postmortem examination to look for damage to the muscles of the neck and structures of the neck, the bones of the neck that support the larynx.

With regards to the neck or throat, the pathologist is looking for damage to a bone which is called the hyoid bone, and in cases of strangulation, this bone is often broken.

In the case of Charmaine Spiers, the hyoid bone was unfortunately not examined.

In addition, there was no detailed examination of the mouth or the tongue, and there was no reflection of the skin over the face to look for damage to tissues of the mouth, the face, and the bones of the face.

The second postmortem examination took tissue and hair samples to look for evidence of long-term drug use.

There was no evidence of anything on microscopic examination of the tissues to indicate habitual heroin use, and the examination of the hair that was taken at the second postmortem examination showed no evidence of heroin metabolites being present in the hair structures.

In addition to this, there was no evidence of any scarring to the skin surface where a habitual heroin user would be likely to inject, and scarring would be a subsequent feature.

I got to

go back and take a look.

I want you to.

I know you were trying to be legal, but he moves at times.

And when he moves, you hit him to an illegal area.

But I can't put that on you.

No, this is the whole point.

he

Every time the fighters went to come in when they – when they went to touch gloves to start the fight it was it was right there it was it was that the backdrop was there and it was fantastic sorry i'm waiting for big john to jump on and uh him get ready so big john's gonna be joining me oh speak of the devil speak of the devil let's bring the stud on himself well that was fun i'm in hotel living man i'm living in a hotel you know traveling i'm in denver i'm in denver right now and uh well that's what gates you won right

there You see? Do you think so? Oh, come on.

It had to happen.

It had to happen that way.

You brought luck to Justin from Colorado, his hometown.

Well, not hometown, but where he lives now.

I'll tell you what.

In this situation, it was just literally like the doctor saying, Talking him and this is normally how it happens, right? The doctor makes the assessment after they get their water Correct and after the round was about to start

John, there must have been times when you were in the White House that you were frustrated with decisions that the parliamentarian made that didn't benefit your side.

Yeah, whether it was in the White House or when I worked on Capitol Hill, I mean, frustration with the parliamentarians or the process is something that politicians will always run into.

But, you know, I actually think that there is a bit more of a, you know, starker line here for Republicans and the president at this moment because of that.

And to me, it's that I think if you can bet on anything in Washington, it's that politicians want to get reelected.

And I think that these Republicans in the House and Senate are looking around at each other and the president's numbers.

They know that his popularity is failing and they're looking for some kind of path to distinguish themselves, to step away because they know that this isn't going to age well.

So I think you've seen this increasingly over the last few weeks to months.

John, to Peter's point, if the president can get a deal signed with Iran, if he can force some concessions on their nuclear program and gas prices start to come down before November, does he turn what is currently a weakness into a strength?

Is that how you see it?

Absolutely.

You're 100% correct.

I went to a thing where Magic Johnson was at and there was a group that they put together and probably 35, 40 people and he was talking to them.

And it was one of the greatest experiences I ever had as far as just listening to another person talk.

Because you got all these people out there that talk about leadership.

And Magic Johnson is being asked questions about specific things that happened in his career.

about it.

The news spread to the county prosecutor's office, state's attorney John McCarthy.

The lead prosecutor, she literally was jumping up and down, "My God, we got a hit on this case." If you put two years of your life as an investigator and as a prosecutor into building probable cause for an arrest, it's a pretty joyful moment to realize you've, you've got, you've got your guy.

And it wasn't a no contest since the glove caused the cut.

Well, the true reason for it was that was at UFC 46.

I was on that card, by the way.

There was no, when you look at it, who issued that glove to Vitor Belfort? The commission.

The commission did.

They gave him the gloves.

They gave Randy the gloves.

Give me your take on the judging on that and why I would imagine you agreed with the scoring.

He says he understands why investigators were focused on Sandy Preyer.

Quite candidly, if you look at the cataloging of homicides over the time that I've been in the office here, I would say that, uh, for, particularly if you're a woman, more than 50% of the time if you're a homicide victim in this county, the person who's responsible for taking your life is your, your intimate partner.

Even before word spread that Sandy Prier was a suspect, Leslie's death had rocked their quiet suburban community.

The town of Chevy Chase has zero homicides, and that you probably could count on one hand the number of homicides maybe over a 10 or 20-year period of time in a town like Chevy Chase.

So as you can imagine, when something like this does become public, it sometimes comes with a lot of panic.

You don't want her getting back in the gym within like a six day or seven day or ten day period to recover.

You can go back in time and I did Michael Bisping when he was the middleweight champion fought George St. Pierre.

And it was him getting blasted by a left hook.

hurt this big but he didn't go out and he was fighting his way trying you know as george tried to put him in a choke put him in the choke and he ends up choking him completely out i stopped the fight and i had to say it was a submission due to a rear naked choke and the ufc had him fighting 15 days later against kelvin gastelum that was not good for him And that was, you know, he got knocked out by Kelvin Gaslam.

It's because he did not recover completely from what occurred in that George St. Pierre fight.

So it's a good thing that Mike Beltran did what he did.

that

mistake right there when you see it even you know no matter if it was obvious if it's intentional you're going to stop it you're going to do something about it but even if you say it was unintentional or what i say there's you know fault no fault And, you know, if it was something that was no fault on him, you still, you have something that is a foul that caused damage.

He noticed an outdoor light right next to the forced window.

I walked along that, that outside wall myself.

The lights went on and I said, "No one's gonna break in here.

The people right next door can watch you break in.

It's not gonna happen."

[dramatic music] Jorge Landeros spent the next several months in a Mexican prison, waiting to be extradited to the US.

I think relationships between the Mexican government and the United States had improved in, in terms of extraditions.

And, uh, uh, it was in relatively short order that we got him back after that.

the same way i'm like you know i don't really get out much other than just to take my son to and from practice and other things i gotta do around that you know around the house but it's i get what you're saying it's it's one of those things man um but tell me there was a story you were telling me earlier we didn't get a chance to wrap it up but uh what the one of the craziest things that's happened to you since you've been back talking about a mouthpiece I've had so, you know, it's

weird.

Okay.

I'll get into the mouthpiece in a second.

I go and I, one of the very first show that I went back to, I had a really strange knockout from an elbow that the guy, it was like a tape delayed.

He got hit, takes a couple steps back, and all of a sudden he's falling down and it's like, what? And I go and I actually hit his opponent as he's trying to come down to hit him again and get him away.

But it went fine, but it was like, wow, that was really strange the way he did that.

There never will

And the state's attorney had this to say about the original detective's fixation on Sandy Prieer, despite the DNA results and despite the neighbor's tip.

I think that police investigations sometimes become myopic.

They seized upon a theory.

I think they were convinced it was Sandy, maybe to the exclusion of a lot of other potential leads.

The state's attorney had harsh words of his own.

Where were you for 23 years when Sandy was under the specter of being a suspect in the case? Where were you for 23 years where Lauren, your former girlfriend, was without her mother? Where were you, if you cared for any of these people?

in mixed martial arts.

You know, at the very beginning at UFC 1, uh, I was kind of part of the show.

I was (laughs) holding onto stuff, uh, being a bodyguard.

Ended up being asked to be the referee for UFC 2, and uh, continued on for a little over 25-year career, and it was, uh, a lot of fun.

He's like, "These fucking idiots thinking that tickling is gonna be the next great move in the toughest sport in the world."

It's never truly worked in any realm that I've ever seen.

I've seen guys try it, trying to be funny.

I've never seen tickling ever stop anything in a fight.