And that helps him get more calm faster than anything.

One of the aspects I want to jump in and say is the role that dad plays is also a little slightly different, whether you have a boy or a girl, but it's a role that really the dad is uniquely qualified to fill.

When it comes to your male students or your male children, you know, unfortunately, our system, our school systems aren't always designed to help our boys.

I mean, you know, we want them to sit down a little bit more.

We want them to conform a little bit.

We tell them not to be as aggressive.

And it's really important for a dad to be to say it's OK to be a guy.

What do you see the power of the chapter program? What happens there when dads get involved?