For James Patton, who kind of gives Charlie Shaw a vulnerability alongside that creepiness, what were you looking for when you were casting that role?

That's really good that you picked up on that, William, because I had a conversation with James about, I don't know if you recognise him from, he's in Wednesday, Captain America, also Harry Potter.

He's on loads of things.

He's a jobbing character actor in the UK.

But he wanted to make him sympathetic because, you know, obviously he's got that arc.

He's got that arc where, you know, it's revenge.

He's here because he's been, you know, he's here to chop you all up because he's been wronged and, you know, you all deserve it.

There

what was that location scouting like how easy was it to find that spot

Well, Renato, I don't know if you knew, but Renato is also the owner of East Sussex School of Circus Arts, which is a circus school where the film was shot.

And behind where his circus school is, is the theme park.

So we sort of tied the two together and sort of asked very nicely if we could use, and the owners were, you know, after some serious negotiating, yeah, that we were allowed to shoot there with a couple of really important caveats.

One, being that we had to change the name from Knock Hatch to Forestless Funland, as we called it.

And also, obviously, that we didn't leave anything.

So the day, because it's a working theme park, the day would finish, The cleaners would come in, you know, the big open, the cleaners would come in and then they'd leave, they'd leave.

Like when you're writing these scripts and you say this one took a year, like how do you kind of work that process? Does a story idea come to you quickly or do you kind of think in scenes and then you build it from like that point of view?

And back in '77, Roger Ebert gave it four stars and said, "Every once in a while, I have what I think of as an out-of-body experience at a movie, where, uh, what I simply mean is my imagination has forgotten I'm actually present in a movie theater." But tell us, John, how does, uh, Star Wars change your life?

Yeah, that, exactly that, actually.

I ...

Okay, I'm exactly as you said, I'm, you and I are of the generation that saw Star Wars when it first came out, and it was Star Wars.

There was no New Hope, all of that.

It was basically Star Wars.

And I remember the summer of '77, when it was c- it was almo- everything, everything was Star Wars, Star Wars, here it comes.

I do know what you mean.