John, to kind of keep playing on this theme of what you've seen across 30 years of this study, how has the scope of what companies are outsourcing, what they're defining, if you will, as 3PL, how has that changed? And of course, I don't think we can ever have a conversation these days without bringing in the big AI word, right? What kind of role are 3PLs playing in that technology?

If I can just articulate what's been going on in the supply chain from year one to year 60 or so.

That goes back.

Back in the day, people purchased what we would call logistics services.

They bought them by themselves.

They bought transportation separate from warehousing and whatever else they procured, it was an individual buy.

Usually price was the driver and we had regulated environments and so forth.

I'm not asking you to comment on the geopolitics of it, just on ways to try to mitigate that.