why would why do you say goldman is the toughest job

It was renowned for that.

When I first went there in 1961, it was called Golden Training Center, and it was first-timers' jail.

But they still had a lot of, most of the people there were murderers and stuff like that because murderers don't reoffend, so they're nearly all first-timers.

And you had guys like Bradley, Vega Bomber, all those sort of people there.

at Goulburn, but it was a good job.

They used to come out at night and do education, stuff like that.

It

Of course you were.

Yeah, I was learning the tango.

And so I had an appointment at this dancing school.

And then I was...

That was gonna be my last appointment, because I was doing it quite a few.

And I knew I was getting too hot, and I did a few other jobs.

And I was gonna go to Perth.

Talk to us about that.