yeah Um, I guess this is kind of a good segue into like what we're the main thing that we're going to kind of chat about today, which is just like, like, what are some of the trends that you as a coach see in your clients, not just ourselves as athletes and coaches, but what are some of the populations you work with or, or write for? And what are some of the things that you feel like are common themes that you see in their climbing?

Yeah, well, I guess I coach adult recreational climbers, basically.

That's my bread and butter.

And most of them are like established, independent, competent climbers.

Like they don't need me to teach them how to belay or tie their knots or be safe.

But they're looking to improve.

And they're a mixture of trad climbers, sport climbers and boulders.

I guess, how did some of these things change between the two books in the way that you were cueing or the way that you're describing or the way that you're manipulating these skills for for essentially like the self-coached climber because