Yeah, I was probably

long-winded, not so clear, but...

They were generous, they were kind, and I think there was enough in what we were trying to do together.

I think they could see what we were trying to do, and I think that was enough.

So there was that.

I think the other areas where we changed things quite quickly were just in terms of trying to have a clear way to make healthy decisions together, so that almost that kind of then laid the path for any change that we brought in.

The church had never had membership.

Just tell us briefly, what's the story since then, since those 18 months? And then we'll dig into some particular areas.

Why has Bunia been hit particularly hard, John?

I mean, this is the seventeenth outbreak now for the, the country, and it's cropped up in, in different places.

But, but this particular one, uh, has been, uh, a lot more severe than some of the, the recent previous outbreaks.

We're already talking about the third biggest, uh, outbreak in history globally, uh, uh, of the Ebola virus, and we're really just within the, the first few weeks of, of knowing about this.

This is a difficult place to have an outbreak like this because you've got a number of existing humanitarian crises already.

I mean, you've got about a hundred armed groups working in this area.

Uh, you've got insecurity issues, humanitarian access.

What have those cuts meant for the response to this outbreak, John?