Can you talk about both that vision and how it kind of how it fits in culture?

Well, I mean, this is something that I wouldn't really have seen the same way when I did the Apocalyptic Imagination.

For one thing, now, in this book, I've been focusing on the content for the most part, and that we call the worldview.

Now, Lorenzo di Tommaso has done a lot of important work in Canada on the world view, and I'm basically in agreement with him.

I would want to relate it more directly to the genre than he would.

Because to my mind, the way you get at the worldview is by the content of the genre.

Although you can also get us in other texts.

Can you talk a little bit about that?

Mm-hmm

... and they say, "Let people go back to their own country.

Let them worship their own gods.

Let them observe their traditional, uh, values." Now, of course, as everybody appreciates in this moment in history, Iranians were the great champions of human rights, right? I'm speaking a little facetiously here.

The Shah, in his day, proclaimed the Edict of Cyrus, so there's a Cyrus Cylinder that allowed captured people to go back to their homelands as the original manifestation of human rights.

Well, not quite.

It was an enlightened policy.

[laughs] Do I hear 90?