
John Henson
Founder of Henson Legal, PLLC, a Birmingham, AL-based TCPA, AI, and marketing compliance lawyer and former GC at ConsumerAffairs and VP of Compliance at LendingTree.
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Oct 2, 2026
E059 - Allstate's TCPA Win, the AI Ad Problem, and LinkedIn Riffing - With John Henson From Henson Legal
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John HensonGUEST
So you can ratify by not doing things as well, right? So, and, and there was actually, uh, there's another case that has to do with AI voice, um, that is in the mortgage side, that the mortgage company kept going out, kept, found out what was happening, lead generator, and then kept going back to the clients anyway, right? And that case is the opposite of what had happened with Allstate, right? So they, they were found to have ratified that, that behavior from the lead gen.

John HensonGUEST
But the business benefit situation is, are you getting a bene- business benefit from this, and would it be unfair to allow you to keep that business benefit while saying, "Oh, we're, we're not responsible for these people," right? Part of that has to go...

John HensonGUEST
The reason Allstate got, I don't wanna say got away with it, but Allstate looks better in this is because they stopped as quickly as possible.
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13:58Carlos CarroHOST
I'm just, I'm curious what you're seeing there, what you're hearing there, what, why you suspect lenders are, are treading very carefully these days.
Ep. 63 | AI Made Outbound Easier. Compliance Got Harder.
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John HensonGUEST
I would say the thing that I would add to this is ties back to the conversation we just had about 50 states, right? One, we are quickly running into the same path with AI laws that we already have with privacy laws and that we're going to be looking at 20 different state laws on AI.

John HensonGUEST
Second is I see it so much with the disclosure, Rich, and even just the recorded line, right? If you're using AI voice, it's a recorded line.

John HensonGUEST
That's how it works, right? As such, in 12 to 13 states, you have to say, hey, you're on a recorded line.
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