You don't need this"?

Y- yeah, that's a huge question, but I love it.

And the thing I tell people, if you think going to higher education is about skill acquisition, right? That is not what education is about.

You, you could sit down over a weekend with a YouTube channel and learn how to use an airbrush or learn how to use After Effects or whatever.

So yes, all schools will give you some part of Skill acquisition or data transfer, knowledge, whatever that is.

The, the real secret sauce of any education is actually community.

It is actually the thing that happens together that where you are actually interrogating basically, "Why am I doing any of this?" Right? And y- you actually need people, you need mentors, and you need a community to help you think about not just, "How do I make a comic look good?" But, "Why am I doing this to begin with?" And that, and that's actually a liberal arts question.

H- how do you apply that to Christianity? Are you saying that the very basics of what you believe fundamentally are coming from Christianity above anything else?

How have you used that in your book? Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Well, I mean, anytime you're trying to tell a story, whether or not most of my books are nonfiction, right? They they are trying to tell the reader something that's true about the world.

I'm basically a translator.

I I'm not a scholar.

I mean, I make these things as a work of art.

So I'm reading secondary sources.

What encouraged you to move into, use your art in a faith-based way?

Okay

... and it's the same thing with Tolkien and Lewis.

Like, there have been so many, uh, hundreds of books about the Inklings, about these two men, and there is always a bit of intimidation of, like, am I Am I able to add anything? Am I able to take this story and make it my own? And there's a lot of doubt that comes in any project.

And, and then you get past that and you think, "I'm going to do this." You start reading and researching, and it's just an avalanche of information.

Um, and of course, with, with Faithful Spy, it was primarily a single, uh, biography.

I mean, it- Hitler was sort of a co-character along with Dietrich in that story.

But in this book, it is fully a, like, cradle to the grave story of two men with really complicated lives.

Actually, why don't you, could you give us a little overview for our listeners or viewers who haven't yet gotten their hands on the book? Like, tell us a little bit about how this is presented, 'cause it is so unique.