Where did you play and how was that experience?

So I, I ended up going to junior college right out of high school, and, um, I played soccer and volleyball there, and I, I dabbled in football a little bit.

And, uh, and I was gonna transfer to, I really wanted to go to Arizona State.

That was my goal.

And, uh, I wasn't gonna play sports there.

I was just gonna go there.

That's where I wanted to finish my education.

Yeah.