Why might a candidate choose not to debate or not to engage on that sort of platform?

Well, I think a perfectly good person to ask that question would be David Carnes and ask him what the downside is, where he got in the debate with Bob Kerry at the state fair and he blurted out that Nebraska needs fewer farmers.

And you could just hear the air coming out of his campaign.

That was the quote that stuck.

That was the quote that everybody remembered.

That was the quote where there was, to his mind, appropriately written.

what was he thinking when he said that? And I'm guessing Carnes lost his...

Do you see those sort of online debates as replacing the live in, you know, in person debate? Do you think that there's no replacement for seeing someone face to face? Or do you think that that marketplace of ideas might just be moving to a different sphere?

Yeah.

It's, it's a fair question.

Yeah.

And so we, we know that all of the, uh, fallout is then when farm and ranch families are in financial trouble, when those businesses are in trouble, that the families that own and operate those businesses and depend on them for their way of living and their family living expenses and all those other things, those families are also in crisis.

So we have an enormous number of families that are in crisis needing help.

And so we've been turning to Congress and we've been saying, Congress, what are you What are you going to do here? You know, the farm bill just saw the 4th, September 30th deadline come and go without a farm bill being passed.

So last, you know, we should have had this done three years ago.

But from where you sat, because here we are getting ready to harvest another crop or another And what are we going to do with those crops? And so is the president's trade policies helping Nebraska farmers or hurting Nebraska farmers?