the styles of beer that he wanted to brew? What was, what did you want to get from it? Well, we got very

lucky with Seb, who to my mind was, is and was, you know, I think up there with the best brewers in the country.

He was, you know, I'd been put in touch with him because he was a regular in one of our bars locally.

the manager of that bar suggested to me that Seb, because he did a bit of kind of cuckoo brewing on the side, that he was looking to quit his teaching role.

We were looking for a brewery or a brewer.

So she kind of put me and Seb together and we talked at length over a few months.

And, you know, we got hugely lucky with Seb because, you know, there was one time he brought... a trial batch of transmission in a bottle, an unmarked bottle into one of our bars and said, try that.

You know, that must have been a really... incredibly difficult period for you what was going through your mind at the time you know what did that experience kind of teach you about running a brewery when you got to that stage I mean obviously you can't foresee COVID happening and you