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John Gums

John Gums

PharmD, FCCP; Executive Associate Dean and Professor of Pharmacy and Medicine at University of Florida; clinical pharmacotherapy expert specializing in payment models for pharmacy services

Jul 2, 2026

11:13
And while we would love for there to be this kind of synthesis between all of those parties, at the end of the day, the health system is a business that has to consider where is the best place that they can spend their limited resources.
11:26
I would just offer an add-on concept, and it has to do with metrics.
11:31
There's an old adage that says that if you can't measure it, it didn't happen.
11:35
Pharmacists have tried to document their value primarily in the savings area, in what I can prevent.
11:45
I can prevent emergency room visits.
11:47
I can prevent hospitalizations.
11:48
It was always on what I can prevent.
13:47
Can you walk us through the distinction between facility and non-facility sites and how that designation shapes the billing approach? And how do collaborative practice agreements fit into all of this?

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