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John Gartner

John Gartner

American psychologist and psychotherapist

Jul 9, 2026

32:33
makes up nicknames for everybody who opposes him, right? Does that sort of fit into that?
32:38
Absolutely, because he wants to put everyone down, devalue everyone, even his own supporters, right? He makes them look stupid.
32:44
He makes them look like little lackeys.
32:45
He gives them shoes that don't fit, that they wear in public, you know, that kind of thing.
32:50
Now, what we started noticing in 2019, and we wrote op-eds about this at that time, He was showing signs of dementia.
32:58
That was in 2019.
32:59
And what we were saying is, look, and we were actually the group of doctors who actually pressured Ronny Jackson, this is a matter of historic record, to give him the mocha.

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38:50
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:27
Mm-hmm.
18:28
He said, "They agreed to send eight boats two days ago, and then They, another two, and that was 10 boats.
18:34
And then they gave us a tribute.
18:36
I don't know, I can't define it exactly what they gave us.
18:38
I think it was a sign of respect.
18:40
20 boats of oil, big, big boats going through the strait, and that's starting tomorrow.
18:46
A lot of boats.

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28:08
If he were to stop eating, you know, the Chick-fil-A's and the deep-fried McDonald's sandwiches and, or, or the fish sandwiches he eats and the Big Macs and the Quarter Pounders and the fries, et cetera, w- would it make a difference at this stage? Can you actually push back time by eating more healthily?
27:01
Yeah
27:01
... was comparing himself to Emperor Titus, uh, uh, Cyrus, I think, who, um, destroyed Jerusalem.
27:07
So in other words, all of this is about military grandiosity, and if you look at a lot of the memes that he posts of himself, almost more than half of them are aggressive memes, right? He's, he's a UFC fighter, he's a cowboy, he's a Mandalorian, he's a warrior, he's a G.I.
27:25
Joe, he's a Rambo.
27:27
In other words, this fetishization of sort of toxic masculine military power, right? And, and it's a cult, you know.
27:35
Pete Hegseth is in that cult, right? And, you know, the other thing, you talk about who's running things, okay? My fear is that, that, that he's running things and he's evil and he's demented, okay? The Iran war, okay? We were winning the negotiations.
27:50
We had actually won the art of the deal.
28:41
Mm
16:23
So Dr. G, if you were, um, writing this as a series, and it's, it's hard not to think of Trump playing the central character in a, in a series of America, w- where does this go next? Do, do we just get more of same?
16:39
Well, I think what has been concerning me for a long time is this pivot that he's making towards international adventurism and imperialism.
16:48
I don't see him stopping.
16:51
Um, I don't think people understand that, um, because he got off pretty easily with his last military interventions.
16:57
He captured Maduro.
16:58
There was really no price to be paid.
17:00
We bombed Iran's nuclear facilities, probably just damaged them, but again, they didn't retaliate.

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... that, that feeds them?
Hugh DochertyHOST
7:18
So is this a sort of, is there a narcissistic injury element to this as well?
7:22
Yes, absolutely.
7:24
No, and, and when he feels narcissistically injured, which is any time he doesn't, he isn't worshiped, uh, or clearly winning, his response is to fight back twice as hard.
7:35
And so one of the things I think people aren't understanding, uh, when we look, for example, at the midterm elections, I think there's gonna be a huge blue wave, uh, unless he dramatically interferes in the election, which he could.
7:47
So it's not a, none of us are feeling relaxed, like this is a sure thing.
7:51
But let's take the best case scenario.
7:52
Let's take the scenario we win the House and the Senate.

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Hugh DochertyHOST
25:37
This seems like a perfect opportunity.

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11:59
Yeah.
11:59
And so that's the point is it turned...
12:00
And here's the thing, impulsive, rash, or careless actions.
12:05
If we review what's happened up until now with the Iran war-Okay? Maggie Haberman said he went to war with Iran on a gut feeling, period, full stop.
12:17
In other words, no one in the government other than crazy Pete Hegseth advised him to do this, right? No one in the military, no one in the national intelligence space, no one in the foreign relations space, uh, advised him to do it.
12:29
No one in his own inner circle advised him to do it, only Pete, crazy Pete Hegseth, okay? And he couldn't explain why he was doing it, when he was doing it, what the goals of doing it were.
12:40
He didn't bring allies along, he didn't bring the country along.

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28:38
This seems like a perfect opportunity.
67:22
Give us a sense of how you take it all in.
67:25
Well, I think you're, you're onto a good start there, right? He is...
67:28
seems to be manically tweeting into the night.
67:30
I think he's always had a hypomanic temperament, but now-- But-- And he's always had a malignantly narcissistic personality disorder.
67:38
But now we have a third component, which is he's showing signs of frontotemporal dementia.
67:43
And let me explain why this is truly a perfect storm, why it, it, it actually, I don't know if it would actually be possible for us [chuckles] to be at more risk given this profile.
67:52
So first of all, the personality disorder, I've been talking about that for 10 years now, um, that he shows signs of a personality disorder that Erich Fromm had first identified, uh, to explain the psychology of Hitler and other leaders like him.

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91:59
Yes.
2:08
Well,
2:09
first of all, you're asking the absolute right question because of course, issue of the moment is the iran war so how his mental processes might be playing into the decisions he's making that really affect life and death on the world stage is really what's paramount here's what we know from the reporting part of what we know is he wasn't advised to go to war by the national security establishment he wasn't advised by the military he wasn't advised by the intelligence community even within his own tight circle of people.
2:42
The only one who was really urging it was Pete Hegseth, not the vice president.
2:47
Rubio typically was mealy-mouthed, you know.
2:50
But the thing is, is that he just made this decision impulsively.
2:55
And actually, the timing of it was quite bizarre, because what we know is that there were negotiations going on, and the Iranians had already made concessions to Trump that they had never made to Barack Obama.
3:08
He was actually winning the negotiations.

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Can you describe what malignant, I wrote a note as well, what does it mean?
15:14
W- what does that comprise of?
15:17
Well, lack of sleep, la, uh, and also lack of inhibition, uh, acting out.
15:23
Um, uh, uh, now, I think it's because he's so complicated, there's so many things going on, he, he, his energy level is flagging, I think, because of the dementia and because he's not sleeping, but he is over-activated.
15:35
You know, he, he can't really reach a state of calm, right? So he's agitated at night, and then he's passing out during the day, but a- he, he is in a state of over-activation where he actually believes these fantastical, grandiose ideas, uh, and that's just incredibly shocking.
15:55
The other thing that's happening is because he is a malignant narcissist, he's getting a thrill out of war.
16:04
He's discovering the, that he can get a dopamine rush from blowing stuff up, and the way he's been talking about war, okay, has that quality of a serial sadist.
16:16
He said to Jonathan Karl, "How do you like the performance?" You know, uh, when talking about Iran.

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... that, that feeds them?
48:29
Y- your view is, is what about Donald Trump's cognitive, uh, current abilities?
48:34
Right.
48:35
The man is not compos mentis.
48:38
Um, those who know him well say he wasn't the same man he was four years ago, but I believe that he is showing signs of dementia.
48:46
A lot of doctors are saying that now.
48:48
Dr. Vin Gupta has been saying it.
48:50
And the nature of dementia is it doesn't get better, it doesn't stay the same, it gets worse, and the rate of decline accelerates.
52:02
So people are saying, "Come off it." They're watching this going, "Really? You didn't say a single word in public, but now you're trashing Trump all over the place?" What do you say to those?
4:43
Mm-hmm
4:44
... people start to act out in an aggressive and, and, uh, uh, chaotic, uh, impulsive way, uh, that's can be very dangerous and gets very quickly out of control.
4:56
So if you think about it, if he did have Alzheimer's, um, and actually I would recommend people look at Dr. Frank George's, um, uh, uh, Substack called The Gaslight Report.
5:06
He has a long discussion of why it's frontotemporal dementia and not Alzheimer's in terms of the symptoms.
5:10
He's a neuropsychologist.
5:13
If it were Alzheimer's, we would see more gross deterioration in his memory as the primary symptom.
5:18
Instead, what we're seeing is gross deterioration in his judgment and impulse control as the primary behavior.

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Mm-hmm
34:56
I mean, wh- what is different about Trump in this second term than while Biden was president and we saw Trump and even during Trump's first term?
35:06
Well, you know, one of the things I always say about Trump is look at Donald Trump today 'cause that's the best Donald Trump you're ever going to see because if he does have dementia, dementia is a deteriorating illness, and I've been writing and talking about this, uh, we're doing op-eds about this since 2019.
35:22
Um, and as you can imagine, he's deteriorated quite a bit since then.
35:26
All the people who worked with him in his first administration now say that he's not the man that he was.
35:31
They see the deterioration just in that brief period of time.
35:35
So, what we see in general when we, uh, diagnose dementia is we see deterioration in at least four areas.
35:41
So, one is language.
37:58
Yeah.

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