Help us understand why Catholic Charities has been involved at moving people into the interior of the country at such scale.

Yeah, so the Catholic Church does teach that we have the responsibility to take care of all people, all poor, all migrants, that countries with more money should help to the extent that they should.

However, it says that for the common good of each individual country, that country can choose how they're going to prudentially allow people in, how they're going to take care of their own priorities, their own citizens.

So I think that the Catholic charities, when they're getting free money from the country, from the U.S. federal government, they're obviously going to take it.

When there are people who maybe from false pretense of what Catholicism really is, want to kind of aid in helping out migrants.

And part of that huge responsibility is the fault of the bishops for emphasizing taking care of the poor a lot more than they've emphasized not killing unborn babies by not holding Catholic politicians responsible who have supported abortion for years.

Where do you think the right line is? How should the government think about getting the wonderful value that comes out of faith warriors contributing to care for their neighbors without getting entangled in what seems to be a misplaced theology?

Well, I mean, first of all, I'm a big 10th Amendment guy, and I think if it's not delegated to the federal government specifically, it should be something held at the state and local level.

Is that a common phrase, or should I look at the kind of friends I'm making? We kind of say embrace the suck more than

dick in the dirt.

That's more of an emphasis that we have.

But it's absolutely awful.

And for all these difficult schools, you just have to go through and embrace horrible, horrible things.

But to become a Green Beret, if you're an officer, you already have to be promotable to captain.

So as an infantry officer beforehand, Went to ranger school, went through infantry-based officer leadership course.

And do you believe, like I do, that there needs to be radical systemic change along the lines of decentralization so people can have maximum control in their own lives under God?

It's like, what is your- Why am I not

going to flip, right? What's going to happen to me? I think I just have- one of the more unique backgrounds in politicians, right? I spent four years in seminary.

I was discerning becoming a Catholic priest.

I was discerning celibacy like for four years in order to be a priest.

Like I don't think someone who's really grasping after power is gonna go through that.

And then I was in the army and I was a Green Beret.

I was a team leader.

And like, that's the, I think again, it's like, that's where you see that crux where it's like, there's a lot of just this web of just bullshit and it's like you get in you try to clean it up yeah it's a lot more complicated there's a lot more hoops you got to jump through

How has that different communities and cultures to bring that knowledge of the family, to bring it more up in the conversation in the public space?

I think that everyone needs to acknowledge that the family is the basic building block of society.

In a sense, it's actually the first government, where you have the father and the mother.

The father is the head of the household, the mother who's assisting in raising of the children, the children who are learning from the parents and are being raised to be good citizens.

And these are factories for good citizens.

That's the way of thinking about it.

And these families have to have shared cultures with other families.

So how do you see the safety net conversation and the handout conversation expands in the American context? It's something that we need

Do you assess that people were forced out who maybe, you know, didn't officially leave because of this but were kind of harassed into a departure from the military? And will we learn some of those stories?

Yeah, so what you have for numbers is there are about 8,600 people who were kicked out and they're considered involuntarily separated.

And then it's estimated there were about 80 to 90,000 who were quote unquote voluntarily separated.

And I would fall into that category.

Well, as you know, I lost out on deployments, team time, job opportunities.

Ironically, I was supposed to teach ethics at West Point, wasn't able to do so.

You had most people who left voluntarily, quote unquote, and they did so in order to not wait to get kicked out, to not wait for their religious exemptions to just get blatantly denied.

Talk about how important the chaplaincy is within the military and how you assess its force posture currently after so many left.

... speak at least one other language? Is that, is that what it is, or is it-

So, the way it works for Special Forces qual- Green Berets, we are different from other, every other special operation component because we work by, with, and through a partner force.

We have five active duty Special Forces groups, first, third, fifth, seventh, and tenth.

Every Special Forces group is, uh, assigned and regionally aligned to a different combat, uh, combatant command.

So, seventh group, where I was assigned, is, is assigned to, um, Central and South America.

So, for the most part, we all just learn Spanish.

There was a time when some people learned Portuguese, but it just makes more sense for us to all just learn Spanish.

... you're one of the three that gets through the selection, and now you start Green Beret school? Or what is, what is the pipeline there afterwards?