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Aug 12, 2026
Inside the National Petroleum Council with John Dabbar, NPC Executive Director | Ep 353
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Elena MelchertHOST
Well, what are some of the studies that you have completed or pending, or tell us about that piece of it.

John DabbarGUEST
In December of last year, we delivered two studies to the secretary, one on permitting and one on gas electric industry coordination.

John DabbarGUEST
As people in the energy industry know, you can make electricity from natural gas.

John DabbarGUEST
Electricity companies, whether they're regulated utilities or independent power producers, will buy natural gas and use that to make electricity.

John DabbarGUEST
A big part of the work we did in that study was to address the coordination between those two sectors, which are both from a technology standpoint, quite different, running gas wells and gas pipelines and gas plants versus power gen and big iron multi-megawatt, 100-megawatt power gen systems.

Elena MelchertHOST
So what's another study that you've been working on that would be of interest to people?
7.9 – De-Bottlenecking America’s Energy Infrastructure with National Petroleum Council’s John Dabbar
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Tucker PerkinsHOST
So give us the highlights of that talk, but maybe even more importantly, what do you think is missing or perhaps even misunderstood in the energy narrative today?

John DabbarGUEST
So one of the key points of work that we've done is around permitting, which usually that's when people decide to check their phones or go get a cup of coffee because permitting doesn't sound like an exciting subject.

John DabbarGUEST
It should be a pretty meticulous process where the project proponent says, this is what we propose to do.
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Tucker PerkinsHOST
I mean, do you tend to see the evolution of data centers, which I believe is inevitable, and the evolution of the power grid to support data centers, do you tend to think that it's going to be like many things, kind of all of the above? Or do you think there will be one method of supplying data centers that kind of becomes the dominant method across the country?