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John Dabbar

Aug 12, 2026

6:54
Well, what are some of the studies that you have completed or pending, or tell us about that piece of it.
7:00
In December of last year, we delivered two studies to the secretary, one on permitting and one on gas electric industry coordination.
7:08
Now let's talk about the second one first.
7:10
As people in the energy industry know, you can make electricity from natural gas.
7:14
Electricity companies, whether they're regulated utilities or independent power producers, will buy natural gas and use that to make electricity.
7:21
A big part of the work we did in that study was to address the coordination between those two sectors, which are both from a technology standpoint, quite different, running gas wells and gas pipelines and gas plants versus power gen and big iron multi-megawatt, 100-megawatt power gen systems.
7:38
They're also quite different from a regulatory standpoint.
10:40
So what's another study that you've been working on that would be of interest to people?
3:12
So give us the highlights of that talk, but maybe even more importantly, what do you think is missing or perhaps even misunderstood in the energy narrative today?
3:24
So one of the key points of work that we've done is around permitting, which usually that's when people decide to check their phones or go get a cup of coffee because permitting doesn't sound like an exciting subject.
3:35
And honestly, it shouldn't be.
3:37
It should be a pretty meticulous process where the project proponent says, this is what we propose to do.
3:44
Here are the alternatives.
3:46
They follow the law and the regulations.
3:48
They engage with the community.

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17:06
I mean, do you tend to see the evolution of data centers, which I believe is inevitable, and the evolution of the power grid to support data centers, do you tend to think that it's going to be like many things, kind of all of the above? Or do you think there will be one method of supplying data centers that kind of becomes the dominant method across the country?

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