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John Cortines

Director of Generosity / Grantmaking at the Maclellan Foundation, co-author of God and Money and True Riches, former petroleum engineer and Harvard Business School MBA (2015).

Aug 24, 2026

9:55
Talk to us about how trusting God helps quiet the financial anxiety that so many listening today are experiencing about the future.
10:04
Well, anxiety grows when we think that our provision rests on us alone.
10:09
And many people who are savers out there like me will know what I mean by this.
10:12
You know, maybe you toss and turn at night.
10:14
Am I saving enough? Am I going to be okay? What if this happens? What if that happens? Jesus reminds us in Luke 12 that the Father already knows our needs.
10:23
And I would encourage anybody wrestling with that to go read that chapter, Luke chapter 12.
10:27
If we have a posture of trust, it frees us to chase his kingdom first.
11:03
So how should love shape the way we view and even use money?
11:48
How would you speak into that dilemma that some are facing right now?
11:52
You know, this is such a huge question.
11:54
The great wealth transfer, of course, is talked about in media, popular media all the time, um, but man, as believers, we have such an opportunity to open up the conversation earlier.
12:03
I would just encourage anybody out there thinking about this, I mean, we're trying to talk to our grade school children about this now, and so if we start the conversation about wealth and wisdom and faith and legacy from a young age, wherever you're at today, open up the conversational door, uh, and, and that will give more time for things to play out.
12:23
I'd say the way not to do it is, is make a will, wait for you to die, and hope everybody figures it out.
13:05
Hmm.
13:06
11 out of the 12 chapters of Ecclesiastes mention death in one way or another.
13:11
Um, but I would, I would argue that the author of Ecclesiastes and God is communicating to us through this book not to make us sad as we think about death, but actually to recognize that life is short, and he's given us the breath in our lungs today.
15:20
And
15:20
so we started brainstorming about what became our second book called True Riches.
15:25
But the idea there is that as we steward money, God's primary concern for me is not that the dollars get perfectly allocated, but actually what is he doing to shape me more into the likeness of Christ through my stewardship of money? So I don't want to just get the numbers right and get the right amount to my church and the right amount to spend and the right amount to save for retirement.
15:47
No, I want to actually be conformed to the image of Christ.
15:51
And so we looked again, Genesis to Revelation, and tried to map out what do we see on that in terms of the transformations of the heart around money.
16:00
So to kind of walk through that, we all start out in a place of sin in terms of our relationship with money and wealth.
16:08
And the four markers of that would be pride, coveting, anxiety, and indifference.

21 MINS LATER

36:58
But we have to come to the recognition as like, there's an opportunity to be better here.
15:46
And
15:46
so we started brainstorming about what became our second book called True Riches.
15:51
But the idea there is that as we steward money, God's primary concern for me is not that the dollars get perfectly allocated, but actually what is he doing to shape me more into the likeness of Christ through my stewardship of money? So I don't want to just get the numbers right and get the right amount to my church and the right amount to spend and the right amount to save for retirement.
16:13
No, I want to actually be conformed to the image of Christ.
16:17
And so we looked again, Genesis to Revelation, and tried to map out what do we see on that in terms of the transformations of the heart around money.
16:26
So to kind of walk through that, we all start out in a place of sin in terms of our relationship with money and wealth.
16:35
And the four markers of that would be pride, coveting, anxiety, and indifference.

21 MINS LATER

37:23
But we have to come to the recognition as like, there's an opportunity to be better here.

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