And as it became apparent it wasn't an accident, I don't know from your inside perspective but certainly looking on it still seemed unreal as to how events were unfolding, the use of planes etc.? ?

Yeah, there was rumors going on that, you know, more stuff was going to happen and so forth.

Back then, the cell phones, everybody didn't have cell phones like they do now.

So one rumor just started going off saying that more planes are coming in.

But I'll have to really tell you that it didn't matter to the firemen.

They were going in.

They were going in no matter what.

Yes, and John, you're nodding there in agreement with Liam.

And as it became apparent it wasn't an accident, I don't know from your inside perspective but certainly looking on it still seemed unreal as to how events were unfolding, the use of planes etc.? ?

Yeah, there was rumors going on that, you know, more stuff was going to happen and so forth.

Back then, the cell phones, everybody didn't have cell phones like they do now.

So one rumor just started going off saying that more planes are coming in.

But I'll have to really tell you that it didn't matter to the firemen.

They were going in.

They were going in no matter what.

Yes, and John, you're nodding there in agreement with Liam.

Is it true that you graduated college basically by cheating your way through college?

Well, it's a long story.

Let's try me telling you about the child.

The little boy, I went off to school with high hopes.

And I was told by my parents that I was a winner.

And I was loved a lot.

And I had a good life, you know, just loved by my parents.

Why be a teacher if you can't read?